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ebay buying/selling questions

"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>
I'm trying (still...again...always) to clean out some of my unused stuff. I
find the whole ebay selling process to be so stressful that I rarely do it.
I always go with a really low starting bid, figuring that a high price or a
hidden reserve discourages people. I know it's somewhat risky, but there
are some items that I know will do well even if I start them at $9.99. I do
not usually offer Buy It Now.
I listed a couple Coach bags. I immediately received several emails asking
me to end the auction early. One even claimed that she would meet my asking
price even though I hadn't given one! Is there such a thing as Ebay
etiquette? Is there a nice way to respond that won't offend the potential
buyer? It feel silly to suggest a ridiculously high BIN price. (A million
dollars for my backpack? Sure!)
I've listed a true vintage item, a minaudiere (sp?) purse (I'm sure that's
redundant), that I think is tons more interesting than the Coaches. (Watch.
It'll get no bids.)
In the next few days, I'm going to list a really amazing vintage Valentino
dress (in a ridiculously small size). The dress has tons of pleats and
miles of ruffles––and EVERYTHING is hand–stitched. If the photos turn out
well, I really do think it's worth looking at, just to see the workmanship.
(I showed it to a couple of seamstresses and they were in awe of it.) I
think you can link to my stuff at
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcofarbQQhtZ–1
If any a.f.ers are high bidders on any of my stuff, please let me know that
we're "related" so I can throw in some goodies.
cofarb
"Stevie" <privilegemagaz...@charter.net>
snipped in spots
I always go with a really low starting bid, figuring that a high price or
a hidden reserve discourages people. I know it's somewhat risky, but
there are some items that I know will do well even if I start them at
$9.99. I do not usually offer Buy It Now.
** I typically offer a buy it now if there's a certain price I want
I listed a couple Coach bags. I immediately received several emails
asking me to end the auction early. One even claimed that she would meet
my asking price even though I hadn't given one! Is there such a thing as
Ebay etiquette? Is there a nice way to respond that won't offend the
potential buyer? It feel silly to suggest a ridiculously high BIN price.
(A million dollars for my backpack? Sure!)
*** I checked out the bags. AWESOME .. omg.. that grey backpack is gorge..
Don't dare buy it for the kid though
I've listed a true vintage item, a minaudiere (sp?) purse (I'm sure that's
redundant), that I think is tons more interesting than the Coaches.
(Watch. It'll get no bids.)
*** I still want to see the photos. I might cajole someone into buying it.
This is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Cool.. OMG .. where did you get this? It's
amazing.. reminds me of one of the really great fashion houses.
Love the Chucks.. they are GREAT.. wish they were in my size!!!
In the next few days, I'm going to list a really amazing vintage Valentino
dress (in a ridiculously small size). The dress has tons of pleats and
miles of ruffles––and EVERYTHING is hand–stitched. If the photos turn out
well, I really do think it's worth looking at, just to see the
workmanship. (I showed it to a couple of seamstresses and they were in awe
of it.) I think you can link to my stuff at
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcofarbQQhtZ–1
*** I will check out the dress. wonder if it would work for me??
Stevie
"luna" <lunaspi...@aol.com>
cofarb wrote:
I'm trying (still...again...always) to clean out some of my unused stuff. I
find the whole ebay selling process to be so stressful that I rarely do it.
I always go with a really low starting bid, figuring that a high price or a
hidden reserve discourages people. I know it's somewhat risky, but there
are some items that I know will do well even if I start them at $9.99. I do
not usually offer Buy It Now.
I listed a couple Coach bags. I immediately received several emails asking
me to end the auction early. One even claimed that she would meet my asking
price even though I hadn't given one! Is there such a thing as Ebay
etiquette? Is there a nice way to respond that won't offend the potential
buyer? It feel silly to suggest a ridiculously high BIN price. (A million
dollars for my backpack? Sure!)
I've listed a true vintage item, a minaudiere (sp?) purse (I'm sure that's
redundant), that I think is tons more interesting than the Coaches. (Watch.
It'll get no bids.)
In the next few days, I'm going to list a really amazing vintage Valentino
dress (in a ridiculously small size). The dress has tons of pleats and
miles of ruffles––and EVERYTHING is hand–stitched. If the photos turn out
well, I really do think it's worth looking at, just to see the workmanship.
(I showed it to a couple of seamstresses and they were in awe of it.) I
think you can link to my stuff at
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcofarbQQhtZ–1
If any a.f.ers are high bidders on any of my stuff, please let me know that
we're "related" so I can throw in some goodies.
cofarb
Hi, yes there is such a thing as e–Bay ettiquite. Not listing an item
to "buy it now" indicates you won't sell it now. Your potential
customers trust you to fairly complete the auction, with or without
bids. Two things required for a successful eBay seller are great
merchandise and ethics. You may offer to contact the non–bidding party
if the item fails to sell.
"Opoponax" <opopo...@clix.pt>
My two cents:
So far, I have never used e–Bay – I shy of it and being in Europe
doesn't help either.
However, I browse occasionally and whenever I see an outstanding item I
feel tempted: I guess one if these days I will sucumb (maybe those cute
plaid Mary Janes?...).
Now, I believe I would feel somehow more confident "bying an item now",
than bidding. I understand the interest and even the appeal of an
auction, and I surelly respect a seller's decision not to "sell now",
but the bidding adds an extra "uncertainty" factor I may prefer to
skip, at least until I become an afficionado and feel comfortable with
the whole thing.
Teresa
opoponax at clix dot pt
"fivetone" <jh...@fivetone.com>
When someone asks us to end an auction early we politely inform them
that this is against eBay rules and encourage them to bid.
www.fivetone.com
Cool clothing by Paul Frank Puma Triple Five Soul
"Stevie" <stevie.wil...@gmail.com>
It can be done via a buy it now option. That is not against Ebay rules
Stevie
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


"luna" <lunaspi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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cofarb wrote:
Hi, yes there is such a thing as e–Bay ettiquite. Not listing an item
to "buy it now" indicates you won't sell it now. Your potential
customers trust you to fairly complete the auction, with or without
bids. Two things required for a successful eBay seller are great
merchandise and ethics. You may offer to contact the non–bidding party
if the item fails to sell.
Thank you. I hadn't really thought about potential customers like
that––people who haven't actually bid on an item yet. One of the first
people to contact me to ask me to cancel the auction had already placed a
bid on it. (But if she's reading this and feels like offering me, say,
$1,000...)
cofarb
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


"Opoponax" <opopo...@clix.pt> wrote in message
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My two cents:
So far, I have never used e–Bay – I shy of it and being in Europe
doesn't help either.
However, I browse occasionally and whenever I see an outstanding item I
feel tempted: I guess one if these days I will sucumb (maybe those cute
plaid Mary Janes?...).
Now, I believe I would feel somehow more confident "bying an item now",
than bidding. I understand the interest and even the appeal of an
auction, and I surelly respect a seller's decision not to "sell now",
but the bidding adds an extra "uncertainty" factor I may prefer to
skip, at least until I become an afficionado and feel comfortable with
the whole thing.
Teresa
opoponax at clix dot pt
Have you ever gone to a live auction? You can see people being swept away
by the excitement, bidding more than they intended. Ebay can be the same
way. The problem with selling in a "Buy It Now" auction, at least for me,
is that I have delusions about how high the bids will go at the last minute.
Truthfully, I think people generally get a better price in the Ebay auction
format than with BIN. I rarely bid directly; I use a "bid sniping" program
instead. I take days to decide exactly how high I'll go. I keep an eye on
the auction, watch the activity; occasionally I'll go back to my snipe
program and increase the bid because I see I have competition. But in the
long run, I've found that my initial impression on how high to bid is an
amount I can live with if I win.
I also feel your problem living overseas. In my ads, I usually specify that
I'll ship to the US only. But I've had people contact me to request
overseas shipping, and if I'm sure they understand what's involved with
paying for the item, shipping costs and the time factor, I'll ship overseas.
(I'm thinking that I should offer that on clothing and shoes at the very
least, since I'm more likely to find a larger audience of smaller bodies.)
I live in a rather remote, relatively style–free zone. If it weren't for
Ebay, my wardrobe would consist largely of Carhart farmworker clothes
(practical but not all that flattering).
cofarb
"Barbara" <mom_2_...@hotmail.com>
cofarb wrote:
SNIP
Thank you. I hadn't really thought about potential customers like
that––people who haven't actually bid on an item yet. One of the first
people to contact me to ask me to cancel the auction had already placed a
bid on it. (But if she's reading this and feels like offering me, say,
$1,000...)
Except in those limited instances in which a person needs an item
before the auction ends, the only reason to *buy it now* (or to ask a
seller to end the auction early and sell immediately to that bidder) is
belief that it will be less expensive than the open bidding process.
Anyone who wants an item *at any cost* can obtain it simply by placing
a proxy bid so high that no reasonable person would beat it (eg, $1,000
for your backpack).
Of course, people have different theories and philosphies of bidding.
I know a lot of people here use sniping programs. Me, I can't be
bothered. If I see an item I want, I figure out how much I want to pay
for it, and bid. If someone wants to try to go to the trouble of
beating me by a penny with 10 seconds left, enjoy; I didn't want to pay
any more anyway.
Barbara
wac...@AOL.com
If any a.f.ers are high bidders on any of my stuff, please let me know
that
we're "related" so I can throw in some goodies.
cofarb
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I am an avid ebay seller. I sell mostly skin care products and
cosmetics and I too have had people send me messages that they want me
to end a bid early. I always tell them, very graciously, that this is
not my policy. If they really want the item badly enough, they will
bid on it just like everyone else. I know some ebayers sell this way
(off ebay or ending an auction early), but I like to be as fair as
possible and I try to avoid negative feedback as much as I can. I used
to sell bags too, but I found it far too competitive and was losing
money for new stuff. Good luck to you.
Susan
http://susansspa.blogspot.com/
SueG <...@susan–gardner.com>
Recently, cofarb wrote:
I'm trying (still...again...always) to clean out some of my unused stuff. I
find the whole ebay selling process to be so stressful that I rarely do it.
I always go with a really low starting bid, figuring that a high price or a
hidden reserve discourages people. I know it's somewhat risky, but there
are some items that I know will do well even if I start them at $9.99. I do
not usually offer Buy It Now.
I listed a couple Coach bags. I immediately received several emails asking
me to end the auction early. One even claimed that she would meet my asking
price even though I hadn't given one! Is there such a thing as Ebay
etiquette? Is there a nice way to respond that won't offend the potential
buyer? It feel silly to suggest a ridiculously high BIN price. (A million
dollars for my backpack? Sure!)
I've listed a true vintage item, a minaudiere (sp?) purse (I'm sure that's
redundant), that I think is tons more interesting than the Coaches. (Watch.
It'll get no bids.)
In the next few days, I'm going to list a really amazing vintage Valentino
dress (in a ridiculously small size). The dress has tons of pleats and
miles of ruffles––and EVERYTHING is hand–stitched. If the photos turn out
well, I really do think it's worth looking at, just to see the workmanship.
(I showed it to a couple of seamstresses and they were in awe of it.) I
think you can link to my stuff at
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcofarbQQhtZ–1
If any a.f.ers are high bidders on any of my stuff, please let me know that
we're "related" so I can throw in some goodies.
cofarb
I've never bought or sold anything on eBay, so I can't help you there.
I did want to tell you, though, that the minaudiere is such a striking
and unusual piece! I hope you get a great price for it.
SueG
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


"Barbara" <mom_2_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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cofarb wrote:
SNIP
Except in those limited instances in which a person needs an item
before the auction ends, the only reason to *buy it now* (or to ask a
seller to end the auction early and sell immediately to that bidder) is
belief that it will be less expensive than the open bidding process.
Anyone who wants an item *at any cost* can obtain it simply by placing
a proxy bid so high that no reasonable person would beat it (eg, $1,000
for your backpack).
Of course, people have different theories and philosphies of bidding.
I know a lot of people here use sniping programs. Me, I can't be
bothered. If I see an item I want, I figure out how much I want to pay
for it, and bid. If someone wants to try to go to the trouble of
beating me by a penny with 10 seconds left, enjoy; I didn't want to pay
any more anyway.
Barbara
I've gotten some more private emails from a.f. lurkers who have pointed out
a few potentially alarming aspects to all of this. Apparently a couple of
the things I'm selling (i.e., Coach bags) are counterfeited in huge numbers
on ebay; my photos can be used over and over by someone to sell fakes. Of
personal concern, if I take something off the auction and sell it privately,
there's a possibility that the paypal account is attached to a stolen credit
card. The legitimate owner of the card will refute the charge and I am
stuck with a payback––and no purse. In addition, *any* winning bidder can
pay, accept the purse and then *claim* it's a fake. So many permutations of
slimy behavior.
And this morning, I received one of those "phishing" emails telling me that
one of my auctions' bid had been cancelled. I claimed to be from Ebay but
it was such a bad fake that I didn't fall for it.
cofarb
"Stevie" <stevie.wil...@gmail.com>
I do find this thread interesting. a year ago I was ebaying a ton of
stuff. lately it's been so hectic that I haven't had time but do know
other friends who have been. Mostly I have just been buying stuff in
the last year off ebay.. and finding some consistent sellers who seem
to have great stuff all the time..
( want to know who? email me.. I am not shilling anyone.. just saying
I found some sellers where we are now on first name basis)
I actually have gone through an ebay trader to sell some things.. and
that was pretty good. Depending on the item I did a good biz.. not as
good as if I did it myself but still..
but it's all dependent on the time of year too.
when I have done garage sales, there are things that were 40–70 dollars
orignial retail with tags that I couldn't sell for 7 bucks. (they
offered me a buck. sorry no).. It's not been worth it to sell expensive
stuff that way because the general person doesn't know/understand the
value. I totally appreciate cofarb's situation here. it's a hard call
Stevie
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


"Stevie" <stevie.wil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It can be done via a buy it now option. That is not against Ebay rules
Stevie
I know I have the option of listing things that way but it basically puts an
upper limit on people's bids. If I have a BIN of $200 on something, no one
is going to bid more than that; they could just "buy it now". At the same
time, I don't want to put a really high BIN price on anything because I
don't want to appear insane.<g>
I think I'm into ebaying largely for the thrill of the chase. I rarely
actually need the things I buy.
cofarb
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


"SueG" <...@susan–gardner.com> wrote in message
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Recently, cofarb wrote:
I've never bought or sold anything on eBay, so I can't help you there.
I did want to tell you, though, that the minaudiere is such a striking
and unusual piece! I hope you get a great price for it.
SueG
Thanks, Sue. I've given up trying to predict what will get high bids or
generate no interest at all. (I suspect that the lion purse will be sniped
at the last second; there are lots of "watchers" but so far no bidders. In
the old days, I would have pulled an item that had no bids toward the end of
the auction. Now that so many people use snipe programs, it's part of the
game to wait for the last few seconds. I snipe...and sometimes I *get*
sniped.)
I get worried when I see bidders who have very low feedback numbers––not
that they are necessarily evil, just that inexperienced ebayers don't always
understand the process very well. Still, my experiences as both buyer and
seller have been overwhelmingly good. (I don't buy things that are
especially prone to counterfeiting, and when I sell something like a Coach
bag, it's been purchased at a Coach store or some equally reliable
retailer––not on the street.)
There are a lot of things that can *only* come from ebay these days. The
overwhelming majority of my Chucks––mostly made in the US––came from ebay.
I could not have found these things in retail stores. And beautiful older
clothes from retailers like Bonwit Teller, etc.––genteel retailers that are
gone forever...
cofarb
p.s. Anyone who is waiting to see me list more stuff: My cat killed my
digital camera the other day. I'm replacing it but it might take me awhile
to figure out how to actually use the new one. (Just what I need: new
technology.)
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>


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"Barbara" <mom_2_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I've gotten some more private emails from a.f. lurkers who have
pointed out a few potentially alarming aspects to all of this.
Apparently a couple of the things I'm selling (i.e., Coach bags) are
counterfeited in huge numbers on ebay; my photos can be used over and
over by someone to sell fakes. Of personal concern, if I take
something off the auction and sell it privately, there's a possibility
that the paypal account is attached to a stolen credit card. The
legitimate owner of the card will refute the charge and I am stuck
with a payback––and no purse. In addition, *any* winning bidder can
pay, accept the purse and then *claim* it's a fake. So many
permutations of slimy behavior.
And this morning, I received one of those "phishing" emails telling me
that one of my auctions' bid had been cancelled. I claimed to be from
Ebay but it was such a bad fake that I didn't fall for it.
cofarb
So you think this is better than a one day yard sale?
Audrey
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


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"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com> wrote in message
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So you think this is better than a one day yard sale?
Audrey
Well, it's a lot warmer inside...
I occasionally do a garage sale but one of the problems living in a rural
area is that people aren't especially savvy about fashion–related items. (I
had several Betsey Johnon and similar dresses at my last garage sale, tagged
$5 and no one showed any interest at all.) A lot of folks are simply trying
to furnish a home very inexpensively. And there are also a huge number of
"pickers" who are looking for bargains to resell to antique dealers. They
want to buy, say, a true antique that is in mint condition for a dollar.
And sometimes they'll hover around––and I can't just click "delete" to get
rid of them.
What I *do* enjoy with ebay buying and selling is the number of people who
are sweet and considerate, folks who appreciate a special item or a
well–written description, sellers who have a great sense of humor about
their offerings...
cofarb
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


"Stevie" <stevie.wil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I do find this thread interesting. a year ago I was ebaying a ton of
stuff. lately it's been so hectic that I haven't had time but do know
other friends who have been. Mostly I have just been buying stuff in
the last year off ebay.. and finding some consistent sellers who seem
to have great stuff all the time..
( want to know who? email me.. I am not shilling anyone.. just saying
I found some sellers where we are now on first name basis)
I actually have gone through an ebay trader to sell some things.. and
that was pretty good. Depending on the item I did a good biz.. not as
good as if I did it myself but still..
but it's all dependent on the time of year too.
when I have done garage sales, there are things that were 40–70 dollars
orignial retail with tags that I couldn't sell for 7 bucks. (they
offered me a buck. sorry no).. It's not been worth it to sell expensive
stuff that way because the general person doesn't know/understand the
value. I totally appreciate cofarb's situation here. it's a hard call
Stevie
I thought the professional listing service idea sounded great. A business
called "Mr. Lister" opened in my area and appeared to do a booming business.
I listed some things through them and thought they did a crappy job with the
listings (listing things in the wrong categories, giving totally incorrect
size information, etc.) and I made almost nothing on three like–new leather
jackets. I still did better than a lof or Mr. Lister's buyers and sellers.
They closed suddenly a few weeks ago, leaving buyers without goods they'd
paid for and sellers without payment *or* their property.
cofarb
p.s. I've listed some stuff of my own––and will be listing more as soon as
I figure out my new camera (my cat knocked my old one off the counter and
killed it, and no, I didn't kill the cat...yet). Some of it is actually
interesting in a fashionista way:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcofarbQQhtZ–1 I'm really working on
improving my ability to describe items––especially those that are
unique––thoroughly. It's actually quite challenging. I'm especially bad at
describing colors. I am thinking I should pick up a box of Crayolas
(64–count) so I can just refer to crayon colors to describe things. Of
course, for a.f.ers, I can just use names like "Benefit Dandelion" or Mac
Hex or...