What To Pack: Music Festival

Hi everyone –
I'm wondering if anyone here has ever been to a several–day music
festival that might be able to advise me. I'm going for my third time
now to an annual music festival in a few weeks. The first year I went,
I wasn't really prepared and the whole hygiene and packing issues were
messed up. Last year was better, but I forgot my toiletry bag, and so I
was pretty gross the whole week. I'm planning to make a few
improvements before I go, including buying a few travel items to help
me stay more organized and to reduce the junk I need. Some changes I'm
making include:
1. Getting my legs, bikini line and eyebrows waxed before the festival
so I don't have to deal with a razor and shaving cream in the showers
there (it's on a campground, so they have little showers, but they're
cold and miserable!).
2. Taking things like clear mascara and a color–stick or lip gloss and
cream blush for makeup, so I don't have to deal with brushes; I am
bringing my lash curler, concealer brush and makeup sponges, though.
3. Spray–pump or aerosol–spray sunblock – not as icky or as much
buildup
4. Those exfoliating face wipes – any rec's? Preferably ones w/out
water req'd?
5. Manicure and pedicure – because I like having nice nails when it's
summer!
6. I'm being more versatile by buying some bikini tops to wear during
the day that can double as bras at night. This is a hippie festival and
it's really hot up there during the day (and I'm college age), so
wearing that sort of stuff does not freak anyone out, it's very common.
Does anyone else here also have any ideas as to how to make my clothes
more versatile from day to evening wear? It's up in the mountains, so
it will be hot during the day, but at night temps can get into the
30s–40s, though usually it's the latter, but closer to the 50s. They
have indoor nighttime shows, so
I'm thinking of maybe buying 1–2 cute cotton tank dresses that I can
layer with long–sleeved shirts and little hoodies and night, with
tights and little leather tennis shoes for at night, plus my gloves and
knitcap. I am also going to bring a few pairs of jeans and just wear
those with some shirts, hoodies or a jacket. Does anyone think that a
denim mini with some sort of sexy tee/top that I can wear with a little
zip–up hoodie and tights and tennies again sound OK? It's just that the
past several times I've gone I've either had to wear bulky sweats to
stay warm (but look "blah") or be cold for a while to look "not so
blah". Trust me, it's no fun when all the other girls got to plan this
thing and are out there dancing and looking good and I'm bundled up in
flannel!
I want to look cute and sexy, but I also want to stay warm, yet be able
to do outdoor nighttime activity and layer or unlayer depending on if
I'm inside or not. I like American Apparel shirts, interested in their
hoodies and I'm looking for a good denim miniskirt that's not too
pricey and will fit someone with a smaller waist (I'm 34–26–35), as
well as shorts with a good 3–4 inch inseam since I have a slightly
bulkier inner thigh and am not interested in exposing my whole butt. I
am also looking for good quality tights that will keep me warm. I am
looking at all of this apparel for future fall/winter wear, too, so it
should be durable.
Any other advice is good, too. Thanks!

"Mouse" <labmous...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:1117058682.192925.4995...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Maybe "hippie festivals" have changed since I was in college, but I led a
pretty bohemian existence in college, and the girls I went to festivals
didn't mother with makeup, waxing, and/or mani/pedicures. If anything,
they went to the other extreme – matching their ponytail holders to their
tie dyes was about as fashionable as they got.
For that matter, an attack of nostalgia convinced me to buy tickets to
see The Dead last summer (boy was THAT a mistake! Memories are a lot
better than a band long past its prime), and the only makeup I saw was on
women my age who, like me, were obviously returning to a dead show after
a 20 year hiatus.
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Maybe "hippie festivals" have changed since I was in college, but I led
apretty bohemian existence in college, and the girls I went to festivals
didn't mother with makeup, waxing, and/or mani/pedicures. If anything,
they went to the other extreme – matching their ponytail holders to
their
tie dyes was about as fashionable as they got.
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I've been out of college for 10 years and had exactly your thoughts
when I read this. Just go and enjoy yourself, don't ruin your
credibility by shaving and wearing makeup.
S.

"Emily" <egs...@aol.com> wrote in message
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||| Mouse wrote:
| > Hi everyone –
| >
| > I'm wondering if anyone here has ever been to a several–day music
| > festival that might be able to advise me. I'm going for my third
time
| > now to an annual music festival in a few weeks. The first year I
went,
| > I wasn't really prepared and the whole hygiene and packing issues
were
| > messed up. Last year was better, but I forgot my toiletry bag, and
so I
| > was pretty gross the whole week. I'm planning to make a few
| > improvements before I go, including buying a few travel items to
help
| > me stay more organized and to reduce the junk I need. Some changes
I'm
| > making include:
| >How about a tinted facial moisturizer with SPF so you don't have to
| pack both moisturizer and foundation? And maybe a tinted lip product
| with SPF as well, such as the ones they have from Neutrogena or
Aveda.
|| Have fun!
|Check out the Neutrogena nail wands, it's a buff or pink color in a
white brush wand. It's nail polish but just a hint and it's a natural
color, for hands (and if you like that color for toes) so it shouldn't
show wear or chipping plus the wand/brush won't break in a backpack
nor should it leak.
I found mine at the local Sav–on/Duane Reede type store, I haven't
seen them yet at Target.

Mouse wrote:
<snip>
don't forget your "bob." nudge, nudge. wink, wink. that is, assuming
you're into that kind of thing. :)
david

"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c8qdnfmCE9EznwHfRVn–
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I think we're being trolled.
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"jjjjjuliep" <jjjjju...@aol.com> wrote in news:1117578388.884178.6367...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Oh well, live and learn.
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"Userb3" <use...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My middlechild is a proud deadhead. She doesn't travel out of state but
I think she owns every cd they ever made and has seen many concerts.
She was born in 1982 so she doesn't share the same memories. She
doesn't do the grunge look for these concerts though jeans and
comfortable shoes are important. Mouse, don't forget to take blotting
papers if you have oily skin, antibacterial hand soap and a container of
wipes especially if there is a lot of dust and dirt.
OT: For graduation she wanted a VW camper bus, more fantasy. A friend
told us about a neighbor of his who was selling one at a very low price.
The exterior paint job was new but that's where the newness ended. It
has been in the shop more times than it has been driven. She hasn't had
the time to learn how to drive a manual well. Last week my son was
taking it to the gas station to get a tire fixed and the gear shift
handle came off in his hand.
Audrey

"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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She was all of 2 years old when I saw my last Dead show before last
summer. I guess she and I probably do have very different memories of
the band!
I'd love to have an old VW Bus to play with. But everyone I know who
ever depended on one for transportation had to simply accept the fact
that they were going to spend a lot of time working on it. They should
come with a tool kit, set of coveralls and a repair manual!
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Mouse wrote:
How about a tinted facial moisturizer with SPF so you don't have to
pack both moisturizer and foundation? And maybe a tinted lip product
with SPF as well, such as the ones they have from Neutrogena or Aveda.
Have fun!

Yeah, but I don't consider myself a hippie, but I do like having *some*
things about myself done, too – I do shave my legs (or wax, in this
case) because my hair grows in very quick and fast and it gets itchy,
so that's why. As for makeup, I'm just looking for wearing, like, 3
things – gloss, clear mascara and maybe some cream blush, just because
I like it. I'm not concerned with "fitting in" and "looking like a
hippie", because there are plenty of "normal" people there that wear
makeup and shave and stuff. I just feel cleaner being hairless while
camping.

I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but how would I ruin my
credibility by wearing a small, minimal amount of makeup on my lashes,
lips and cheeks to a music festival? Would it be because I wouldn't
look like a prototypical hippie? I've grown up in NorCal and have been
to Berkeley/SF, Humboldt County, Eugene and Portland, OR, etc. – I know
all about the hippie scene, it's just not my thing, I just happen to
get along with many hippies because we share similar musical tastes and
world views. I was just mentioning it as a hippie festival more or less
because there are lots of them up there, and they're less likely to
have hangups about a young girl walking around in a bikini top. I'm not
even sure if I'll be wearing that much makeup now that I've been
thinking about it, but I'm not going to *not* care about my personal
hygiene (which for me includes body hair) because someone up at
festival might be closeminded and think I'm some sort of "yuppie
sell–out" that doesn't even know me.

"You've Got Spangle" <spangle_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1117338197.112...@aragorn:
Damn, that's harsh! Why would you object to people enjoying themselves?
It makes me
What's wrong with recapturing one's youth? Isn't that a lot better than
just turning grey and feeble in the easy chair? And if you still enjoy
the music, why not go to the shows?
BTW – since you're "just" in your thirties you may not remember, but
during the 1960s and early 1970s, anyone over 30 was not to be trusted –
too old to be young. Maybe you better start shopping for support hose and
a walker, granny!
To my mind if a cancer survivor musters up the energy and enthusiasm to
enjoy a concert they want to see, then I'm inspired. THERE'S someone who
appreciates being alive and knows how precious it is. I'm certainly not
going to suggest that they shouldn't be at the show because they aren't
as young and hip as I am.
Print this out and save it somewhere. You'll get a good laugh when you
re–read it in 20 years.
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ahmward wrote:
I don't think the ability to understand that is necessarily an age
thing. Some people do "get it". I'm in my early 30's and still like to
go see some bands that I started listening to 15 years ago. Also, I
wouldn't look down my nose at older (or younger) people at any concert.
I like diversity. I *might* occasionally be slightly surprised if I see
a lot of older or younger people at a show, if I hadn't realized a
particular artist had such a wide fan base. But it's not off–putting
when that happens. It's kinda cool.
––
tWW

My daughter says the music continues to change especially since there
are new musicians and the characteristic feature is the unique
improvisation of that specific performance like jazz. She hasn't gone
to overnight festivals but wants the OP to say where this festival is
being held since she is certain she can give additional information
about what to wear and bring. Is it Bonnaroo?
Audrey

"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:GdydnYNv3dDUtgffRVn–
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I have several friends who make it to Bonnaroo each year. Judging from the
pictures they've brought back, its pretty well anything goes, fashionwise,
and I'd advise festival goers to focus on comfort more than appearance. T–
shirts, halter tops, jeans, and sweaters/jackets in the evening pretty well
sum up the dress code as near as I can tell.
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"Userb3" <use...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My daughter's first thought was a long skirt especially if the OP wants
to be more girly.

"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My cousin Monica's husband is the first cousin of Phil Lesh of The Grateful
Dead. They *still* go to the concerts and they're not really even in to the
music to the point where they know the songs by heart. They still go
backstage––––sometimes two nights in a row and out of town all just to
support Phil and not really even for the sake of the tunes. It all just
cracks me up. :o)
I know it sounds mean, but just thinking of all of these people hanging out
at rock festivals who are in their late fifties and sixties and are now
grandparents makes me want to hurl. It makes me (and some of my younger
cousins) feel like they're just trying to recapture they're youth and be
like us; like it's some big, pathetic pipe dream quite honestly... I'm sure
that sounds smug and arrogant, but we're still in our thirties and we think
it's just ridiculous.
These are people who don't walk as well as they used to, who've suffered
Cancer and are in remission and not exactly in great physical health to hike
such a long distance from their car to the amphitheatre, etc., and they're
hanging out in the rain possibly catching Pneumonia to hear the Grateful
Dead when Jerry is gone and it's no longer even the same. I think it's just
sort of childish, obsessively dedicated and ridiculous, but whatever. It's
my family, so I'm not going to tell *THEM* that...
To me rock festivals and caravan style concerts are something you do in your
late teens and twenties like the original poster is doing––––back then it
was really super fun, but in my 50s......no way. Nowadays, in my mid
thirties if the concert isn't *indoors* I don't really want to even fight
the traffic and the bullshit and go. They don't let you bring food in and
you have to pay like $8.00 for a freakin' hot dog or a gyro, which rather
sucks.
I'm going to a show in September where the tickets cost me about $100 per
seat, but it's indoors, thank GOD!!! It's hard to know what to wear or how
to prepare for an outdoor festival ahead of time, so I'd darned glad this
one is INDOORS. Been looking forward to it for a Hell of a long time. I'm
just glad I won't be rained on!!!! :–)
I'd pack a sweatshirt and jeans. Maybe wear long johns under a pair of
shorts or cut offs, that way you can take them off it's too hot and have
them accessible if it rains. Otherwise, pack the long pants in a bag and tie
the sweatshirt around your waist!!! A hooded sweatshirt is even better. Even
if it's not predicted to rain, wear shoes that fully cover your toes.
They'll get stepped on due to the crowd, all of the food and bathroom and
T–Shirt stand lines, etc.
(Where I live in the Pac NW, they often times will not let you wear a
backback in to the show, that's why I mentioned wearing long johns, because
some people are pretty crafty and manage to sew what they plan on illegally
smoking in to the inner lining of their knapsack.)
As for the comment about VW Buses.....Hehehehehe....VW Buses are just
awesome...we had two when I was a little kid. Verrrrry fun car. One got
totaled by a drunken idiot in a jeep who hit us. Tipped the entire vehicle
over. It was horrid. I was only five years old and was *in* the car when it
happened. We all came out alive, but it was very scary. The other was a
replacement. I like the buses soooooo much better than the bugs. Our best
friends had a bug around about that time in the 70's. A groovy citrus orange
color!!! The egg shape of that car has *always* made me dizzy if I'm in one
on the freeway for longer than about 45 mins. They just look so darned cute,
though!!!!
:–) To the original poster––––Have a blast!!!!! You're only college aged
once! Live it up in style!!!
JN

Well, it was half in jest. I do remember that we could tell who was a
high school student visiting the college because they would look a lot
like us, but the high school women would be wearing eyemakeup and the
men would have socks color coordinated to their t–shirts, so I guess
there is some truth to it.
Interesting that you are a mouse too!
S.

"Userb3" <use...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I've got to enter this discussion. I'm not trying to recapture my
youth. I've never lost it. My daughter says her rock and roll mama is
trying to be like her. I say she is trying to be like me. We are both
having fun with each other. What younger generations don't understand
is we never lost our love of this music. We are just growing old with
the entertainers and darn happy they are still alive to play for us and
others. I don't do weekend music festivals but know people my age who
do. I've never been a Deadhead like my daughter but in the past few
years I've traveled to see live in concert David Bowie, the Rolling
Stones, and Eric Clapton. In town I've seen the Eagles and look forward
to their tv concert this week. I've seen Aerosmith twice in recent
years. I have tickets for Paul McCartney in November, Tom Petty in
August and if all goes well, the Rolling Stones in November. I saw the
Stones when I was much younger and my love for the music just won't fade
away. Yes, I still have a lot of my ancient LPs and would never part
with them. I probably know the words to the songs as well or better
than anyone half my age.
You or anyone else can get cancer or pneumonia. It isn't an age thing at
all.
I think it's pathetic to think that music belongs solely to a single age
group.
OT: When I go to concerts I tend to wear black tees, jeans and the
shoes depend on where I am sitting. I never was a hippie though I could
have been but I enjoy watching everyone of my generation and others.
When I saw KISS with Aerosmith there were several my age who had the
makeup and dress to look like the band members.
Audrey

"You've Got Spangle" <spangle_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1117338197.112...@aragorn:
We have an interesting chicken and egg question here. Why would you
assume that people who actually "are" the rock generation are copying
people 20–30 years younger than them?
Some of the bands that have been around years attract an audience
covering many age groups. I and a friend attended a Stones concert with
her 18 year old son and his friend. The kids did not seem to be ready to
throw up over this. They were just grateful that the oldies possessed
the computer skills to grab tickets on the internet.
If someone hobbles along to a concert (indoors or out) with their zimmer
frame, that is their business. More power to them. People buy tickets
to concerts that appeal to them, end of story.

Userb3 wrote:
That would be my guess as well.
So, what did the OP wind up taking to her festival? If it hasn't
happened yet, my 2 cents –– no short or straight skirts. Too much
bother for sitting on the ground or for the traditional *on the
shoulders* moment.
Barbara

Userb3 wrote:
If one even the most cursory knowledge of this person's posting style
this outburst is nothing unusual.
What puzzles me is that people take her seriously and attempt to engage
her in serious conversation about her statements.

"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:obGdnVXb5_k6hgffRVn–
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Good point. Truth be told, while I don't listen to the GD as much as I
did 20+ years ago, I never stopped listening to them, so when I went back
for my first concert since 1984, I was just returning after a brief
break.
I think Spangle should re–evaluate the fact that she's apparently a 2nd
or third cousin to a member of one of the longest running and most
popular bands in modern music history. Even if she isn't a Deadhead,
she's missing out on a tremendous opportunity by not joing her "elderly"
cousins for a concert or two. Even though I think the band's long past
their prime, I'd jump at a chance to hang backstage and see a concert
from their perspective.
For several years I ran an event production/pr business, and had the
opportunity to work with a lot of older musicians, including some jazz
and blues musicians in their 80s and 90s. I can assure you that when
those guys got going, they weren't recaputuring anything – they were
doing what they did best. And they could out–party a lot of us young
guys.
As a lot of people have said, "Age ain't nothing but a number!"
ob fashion note: Champion Jack Dupree was far and away the coolest stage
dresser I ever worked with. I seriously coveted his cosmic shoes, and the
man could wear more sequins than anyone this side of Charles Brown and
still outshine them with his personality. You gotta be cool to dress that
cool!
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"Userb3" <use...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Read the post again. I'm not a cousin of a member of the Grateful Dead. I'm
the cousin of Phil Lesh's first cousin's wife and their children. *SHE*
married a GD member's cousin and she's my cousin. I am not related by blood
to Phil Lesh, but I guess you could say, I'm *very* loosely related to him
by marriage.
Therefore, I owe that band absolutely *NOTHING* familially or otherwise. I
just think it's hilarous and pathetic (and so do their kids) that they still
go to the GD concerts and party like they're all still 21 y.o.a when they're
now about sixty all for "Phil's sake" and "to keep him happy" when my cousin
Mon doesn't even like the music and she never has. It's ridiculous. They're
people's GRANDPARENTS for cripe's sakes! They're not 20 any more! They can
listen to CDs at home or attend rock shows that aren't festivals. Rock
festivals are for young folks and not a bunch of overaged, out of shape
hippies.
JN

"Userb3" <use...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Knowing full well what the person is like doesn't stop the curious from
asking questions.

"Userb3" <use...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I've met and spent time with enough well known musicians over the years just
merely via the type of artistic industry I used to work in. I've never
wanted to hang backstage or overnight with the GD. I could if I wanted to,
but I don't. Sometimes when you get to know these people and find out their
whole back–story behind the scenes, you find out things that you didn't want
to know. Things aren't always what they seem, in other words.
JN

"Userb3" <use...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I *said* I'm sure it sounds smug and arrogant. What part of that did you
somehow miss? It's not "harsh", it's merely judgmental and set in certain
mindframe, that's all. I just think my cousin needs to ACT HER AGE and I
know she's just doing it for her husband and for Phil since she's told all
of us that she doesn't even *like* the GD's music.
Never has, actually, but she does not dislike Phil as a human being. She
loves him very much. She's just not enthralled in any way, shape or form by
his choice of artistic expression/profession, really.
I think when you're *that* age to *still* be putting up with certain
relatives (or spouses) and their ridiculous hobbies that are not hobbies you
really enjoy partaking in is cumbersome and basically embarrassing. It's
time to bite the bullet, stand up for yourself after all of those decades
and say "Honey, I don't want to go. You take your buddies to Phil's show.
I'm sitting this one out. If he's callous enough to take it personally than
so be it."
Yet she plays the role of the good wife and keeps on going. I don't think
it's good for her health or her mindset to be quite honest. It's an event
that's outlasted it's welcome, yet she continues to partake just to keep the
peace and be nice. That's emotionally irresponsible and can cause a person
to harbor resentment after numerous decades, really.
JN

"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You didn't read what I said correctly, obviously. I said there's nothing
wrong with older folks going to *indoor* arena shows. Nothing at all.
Outdoor rock festivals often involve trekking from your car that's parked in
a field to the amphitheatre, camping, hanging out in your cutoffs at the
beer garden, etc. It's just a whole different atmosphere that I don't
associate with people who are over the age of about thirty five, unless
they're nuts.
I didn't say it was outrageous to still want to listen to the Rolling
Stones, Jefferson Airplane or the GD once you turn thirty. Hell, I'm almost
thirty four and listen to The RS' Goat's Head Soup CD on a weekly basis, for
crying out loud.
I wouldn't be caught dead at an *outdoor festival* in a raincoat and hiking
boots to see them, though, even though I think Mick Jagger has got the
greatest looking ass that God ever created. Hell no. That's immature
behavior for immature people and I equate immature, party hardy, drunk with
your boobs hanging out of a halter top type of concert behavior with teens
and young adults in their twenties.
JN

"You've Got Spangle" <spangle_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Not everyone at the weekend concerts acts or dresses the same way.
Thank heavens for individuality. Lots of people my age though do camp
and hike. We don't have one foot in the grave yet.
Audrey

"You've Got Spangle" <spangle_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1117405632.198...@boromir:
In many families that would qualify as being a 3rd or 4th cousin.
As Ahmward pointed out, they're not acting like they're 21. They're
acting like people who are enjoying themselves at a concert and
supporting a cousin/friend. There's no age limit on that.
If they're out of shape and insist on wearing low rise pants with halter
tops or speedos at the pool, you can complain that they're not wearing
appropriate clothes, but attending a concert, especially one that
features a relative or friend doesn't require a given level of youth
and/or hipness.
I wish my grandparents were going to concerts and festivals! We should be
applauding them , not criticising them.
In other words, they're old enough to know what they like and have the
freedom to do it. In a lifetime of building careers, raising children,
and helping to raise grandchildren, they've learned more than most 20
year olds even suspect there is to know.
As can 20 yr olds.
Putting aside the obvious misguided arrogance and ageism of that
statement, I always thought rock concerts were for people who enjoyed
going to rock concerts.
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"You've Got Spangle" <spangle_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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I'm agreeing!
Back when I was a young whippersnapper, we used to use the word "harsh"
to describe statements that were smug, arrogant, and judgemental.
I don't have a clue what "act her age" means, particularly when we're
discussing musicians who are old enough to collect social security, and I
don't see a problem with married people doing things for their spouses.
God knows I've attended events with/for my wife that I'd never attend
myself, and vice versa. Its what married people do.
So she attends concerts on occasion and hangs out with an in–law she
loves. This makes her husband and the in–law happy. Where's the problem?
What this has to do with age, I don't know. Everyone I know in a serious
relationship has attended events for their partner/spouse. Unles you're
lucky enough to marry yourself, its going to happen.
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"Valerie Belcher" <V.Belc...@att.net> wrote in message
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For the very SAME reason that SO many older folks on this thread are
griping. They don't have a young soul, that's why. They're old, whiney and
worst of all.......they are bitter. Nobody at an outdoor venue who's younger
and in good health should have to put up with that nonsense. Not for the
price of $100 tickets, that's for damned sure.
If they're drinking, chewing or smoking on TOP of their old folksy griping,
that's even worse. Tickets are expensive to begin with. It's ten times worse
if you're still young, sprite, and have got a good soul left in you and have
to sit next to the Depends crowd.
My one solitary "Here's what I think, now deal with it" comment on this
topic has been the PROOF in the puddin' because all of the old folks came
out to whine, bitch, hobble, rub skin firming cream on their cellulite and
Ben Gay on their knuckles and gripe.
LOL.....so predictable. What a bunch of denture wearing saps. SOBS....the
whole nasty lot of them. Who in their twenties or mid thirties wants to pay
$125 bucks and sit next to that? Nobody I know, that's for damned sure.
Outdoor partyin' and old folks don't mix. All of the comments about this
have proven so. Besides, all of their walkers and hover 'round scooters take
up too darned much space.
JN

"You've Got Spangle" <spangle_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why do you have so much anger? You really need to chill.

"You've Got Spangle" <spangle_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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At last you start kooking out in alt.fashion like you do elsewhere.

"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c8qdnfmCE9EznwHfRVn–
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Because she's NUTS.

Good point. I don't think I own any straight skirts or really *short*
skirts, except for one that is dry clean only, so that's definitely not
a camping item. It's just a PITA trying to find new summer clothes for
camping (and just as a general wardrobe), especially decently priced,
comfortable, well–fitting items. I had such a bad experience last year,
because I forgot my toiletry bag, so no toothbrush, soap or razor, that
I'm overreacting this year by getting everything on my body waxed,
painted, sprayed, etc. so I don't have to deal with it again this year.
I just can't stand it – I don't mind camping, being dirty, etc (I did
grow up riding horses, after all), but I need to rinse off there at
least every 2 days so I don't have oil, sunblock and dirt buildup
everywhere and become some sort of walking health hazard, LOL.
Well, if anyone is still wondering, I'm planning to pack mostly
bikinis, halters and maybe a tank or two, some longer cotton skirts (if
I can find ones that fit my criteria for wardrobe investment), 1–2
pairs of shorts, maybe I'll try to find a cotton tank dress. Packing
1–2 pairs of jeans, some long–sleeve shirts and hoodies to go over my
bikini tops, halters or tanks in the evening, and some leggings to go
under skirts/dresses at night.
I'm going to buy some 3–in–1 body wash/shampoo/conditioner, that nifty
dental kit from Sephora (I am obsessed with weird little
items–within–items and have wanted this travel item for a while, but
never had a place to go as reason to buy it), bring along my trial–size
mouthwash (yay trial–size mail samples!), deodorant, sunblock, eye
cream, Olay Daily Facials (or similar), lip balm, brush, moisturizer
and cuticle cream, so I don't get those painful hangnails that I do get
if I don't use cuticle cream. Maybe, maybe, maybe some clear mascara.
Any other rec's, or anyone know where online I can buy American Apparel
tee's in bulk for cheap?