wearing long sleeves in the summer

I just read a little blurb about a study done by Bunka Women’s
University professor Teruko Tamura on the differences between men and
women when it comes to wearing long sleeves in the summer.
Now at first this may seem like a stupid thing to study, but after a
minute of thought I was intrigued. (So either it's deeper than at
first glance, or I'm intrigued by stupid stuff. Or both.)
According to the study, which was done by filming people coming and
going at Shinjuku Station over the course of ten days, a much greater
proportion of men wore long sleeves than women.
The study concluded that women were more likely to choose comfortable
short sleeves athan men even in high summer temps (defined by the
study as 85 degrees and above).
Personally I feel a little odd wearing long sleeves in the summer, it
doesn't feel "seasonally appropriate" to me, like weaing a Hawaiian
shirt even on a warm winter's day. Considering temps can easily reach
the high 90s during the day around here it seems ridiculous to wear
long sleeves BUT I must admit that I would be a little surprised to
walk into a formal business situation and see a man in SHORT sleeves!
We're talking dress shirts here, of course. ('Short–sleeved dress
shirt' almost seems like an oxymoron to me.)
Why I feel this way I have no idea. It really is rather biased, now
that I think of it.
Do you wear long sleeves in the summer? Formal evening attire
excepted.
Leigh
––
Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich. – D. Duck

"Leigh Melton" <le...@nbi.com> wrote in message
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| I just read a little blurb about a study done by Bunka Women's
| University professor Teruko Tamura on the differences between men
and
| women when it comes to wearing long sleeves in the summer.
| Do you wear long sleeves in the summer? Formal evening attire
| excepted.
Yes, both t–shirts and wraps with long sleeves, even a sweatshirt for
the L.A. "june gloom" mornings. I look at it as another layer of
sunscreening, previous new article posted saying we don't need it,
aside.

Leigh Melton wrote:
Yes, if it's cool enough, and also 3/4 sleeves when it's warmer. I
very, very rarely wear short sleeves, although when it's quite warm
(the "high summer temps" as defined above are rare for San Francsico) I
may wear something sleeveless and add a coverup (shrug or cardigan, and
always with 3/4 or long sleeves) if I need to. I don't really like
short sleeves, they are not especially comfortable or flattering for
me.
––
tWW

I find the study and its conclusion flawed, based upon the article's
summary of the actual study. Could it be that men wore long sleeve
shirts more than women due to workplace dress codes? In some work
environments, women can wear short sleeves while men can not. Did the
study consider this factor? What type of station is Shinjuku
Station––is it located in a business area or in a recreational area or
residential area?
Personally, I'll occasionally wear long sleeves in the summer. More
likely, I'll have a short sleeves and a sweater. The air conditioning
in most places is too cold after five minutes.
Anita M.

Leigh Melton wrote:
I agree that women have more short–sleeved options for business wear.
On the other hand, I get cold and often wear long sleeves in
temperatures of 85 or so. Then there's the whole air–conditioning
issue. I never go to a movie or restaurant without taking a light
sweater, even on the hottest days, because I just get so cold sitting
still in a very air–conditioned room.
Note that I am quite round, too. I shudder to think of how cold I
would be if I ever got down to my high–school low weight again.
T.

On 24 May 2005 15:44:42 –0700, "BlondEsq" <blonde...@aol.com> wrote:
I'd say that is possible, certainly. Of course Shinjuku is a
super–busy urban railway station and not just salarymen and Office
Ladies go through it.
I've never been in a Japanese corporate office, but even the
higher–end Tokyo department stores don't necessarily have a/c so I'm
not sure if that would be a factor.
Leigh
––
Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich. – D. Duck

I once read an article in Vogue about business dressing and it said
"If there is a man in your office wearing a short sleeved shirt with
a tie he is probably there to fix the computer." Working in the IT
business myself I found this very funny, and think it sums up mens
dress codes in a nutshell.
Personally I dislike the constricted feeling of long sleeves and often
wear short sleeves even in the winter. I am lucky enough to have my
own office where I can keep the heat as high as I like in the winter
and the
A/C off in the summer. We won't discuss what goes on in our home. At
this time of year (especially this year which has been very cool in the
Northeast) it is not unusual for me to come home with the heat on in
the
car to find my husband at home with the A/C on in the house!
Heidi

Ditto to TWW.. I don't care for short sleeves, because my worst feature
is my arms. It's an un–lovely family trait I inherited. So I tend to
wear long sleeves or 3/4 sleeves unless it's over 90.
––
Jen in ND

Is it because men's forearms may look delicate in short sleeves so
long sleeves are more flattering just as business suits flatter and
empower most men.

Leigh Melton wrote:
The study is probably flawed. From what I saw & learned from my friends
while in Japan recently, women rarely work once they get married. Those
that do work – the office ladies – have a strict dress code. They wear
staid, modest dress suits in dark colors (think about U.S. early 80s
feminine work attire).
The rest of the married women spend their days shopping, having lunch
with their friends, cooking, cleaning, etc, and can enjoy a wider range
of dress clothes, practical clothes, and fashion.
And even if the study observed during post–office–hours, men work very
long hours in Japan, often going out after work to entertain clients,
and they don't go home to change. Office ladies don't get to join (they
have another class of woman for that job – the hostess ladies, who
dress more vampishly).
With that said, I'd be very interested in doing a similar study here in
the U.S. If it were in my neck of the woods, they'd probably find the
opposite effect: that men are more likely to wear short sleeves in the
winter! At my biz–casual office, a large proportion of the men live
year–round in short sleeve polo shirts. Typically with logos. Yikes.
Some of the managers dress a little better – in long sleeve dress
shirts and khakis – but they are the minority. Few women wear short
sleeves to the office in the summer because the air conditioning is
kept so dang high.
I do know a (probably statistically insignificant) handful of men who
*never* wear short sleeves. They've confided it's because they don't
like their arms. You know how women like to dress to look slimmer? Men
want to dress to look broader in the shoulder, and showing off massive,
muscular arms. If you're a man and you don't have broad shoulders and
muscular arms, then a long sleeve shirt gives you the illusion you
might.
jen

On 5/24/05 4:48 PM, in article tp6791dhqbdrink70q3549tf5k0fpjn...@4ax.com,
"Leigh Melton" <le...@nbi.com> wrote:
Having been through Shinjuku Station (Tokyo) a number of times, I would say
that the study is flawed b/c:
a) most of the men in Japan are required to wear long–sleeve dress shirts ––
if not a suit –– for work. It's rare for business to have casual dress
codes (i.e. Allow short–sleeve shirts), so already a good portion of the
males are in long sleeves. And, yes, there really are salarymen everywhere.
b) women's work dress code sometimes allows for short sleeves, so you'll
have a number of women wear short sleeves while their male counterparts have
to settle for rolled up long–sleeved shirts at best.
C) Asians seem to handle heat better (or so some Caucasian tourists verbally
marveled multiple times in one of my tour group trips). I think that
there's a grain of truth in this b/c many Asians will make efforts to dress
nicely regardless of weather, and for men this means dress shirts.
D) women's business dress sometimes–to–usually allows short sleeves, while
men's does not.
Unless she only counted people who did not look like they were office
workers, I find the study worthless.
I wear long sleeves in the summer b/c:
A) it's cold in the office.
B) bugs love to suck my blood. I'd rather be hot than itchy.
C) I feel that I need a layer of sun protection.
ami
––
Check out my ebay auctions at http://tinyurl.com/26jcu for shoes, purses,
and more!

I once read an article in Vogue about business dressing and it said
"If there is a man in your office wearing a short sleeved shirt with
a tie he is probably there to fix the computer." Working in the IT
business myself I found this very funny, and think it sums up mens
dress codes in a nutshell.
Personally I dislike the constricted feeling of long sleeves and often
wear short sleeves even in the winter. I am lucky enough to have my
own office where I can keep the heat as high as I like in the winter
and the
A/C off in the summer. We won't discuss what goes on in our home. At
this time of year (especially this year which has been very cool in the
Northeast) it is not unusual for me to come home with the heat on in
the
car to find my husband at home with the A/C on in the house!
Heidi

Menopausal Floridian's summer casual uniform: tank top under an easily
removed buttoning jacket or top with at least a short sleeve. Bring
on the hot flashes and a/c blasts!!
I also never go to an a/c'd restaurant in shorts.. I like cotton pants
with a drawstring.

Maybe I misled –– the tops I like have short sleeves too – camp shirts
with squared off bottoms and a little vent are perfect.
You could also convert an old long sleeved shirt to a coverup by
removing the collar.

"Leigh Melton" <le...@nbi.com> wrote in message
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During the summer where the temp is in the 90s to 110 my husband wears a
long sleeve dress shirt with a lightweight wool suit to work four days a
week. On the more casual Friday he wears tan slacks with a polo short,
often one with the company logo on it. If, however, he has a meeting
that day, he will wear the suit, long sleeve shirt and tie. He owns one
short sleeve white dress shirt and rarely wears it. It doesn't look
right. This isn't a company policy but one of personal taste. We are
fortunate to have air conditioning in our vehicles as well as in almost
every building we enter. On Saturday I went with him to choose the
fabric for a new suit. The man who helps us was wearing a seercucker
suit but his comment was he knew DH wouldn't ever wear one like it. He
doesn't dress like this at home :) At home he'll wear a short sleeve
tee or polo and shorts.
I, on the other hand, rarely wear long sleeves in the summer. I may
take a lightweight cardigan or jacket if I think the air conditioning
will be too cold for me but I automatically choose something lightweight
and comfortable.
Audrey

ami kio wrote:
Same here!
I wear lightweight long sleeves in summer, often in lighter colours. I
simply could not stick to short sleeve only – somedays I just need that
"extra layer of protection", be it from a/c, evening breeze or too much
sun!
Teresa
opoponax at clix dot pt

val 189 wrote:
<<Menopausal Floridian's summer casual uniform: tank top under an easily
removed buttoning jacket or top with at least a short sleeve. Bring
on the hot flashes and a/c blasts!!
=A0=A0I also never go to an a/c'd restaurant in shorts.. I like cotton
pants with a drawstring.>>
In your summer climate even premenopausal women should be allowed to
wear anything they want!
I really prefer to keep my arms covered; they are not <cough cough>> my
best features. But I'm painfully sensitive to heat. The ideal
temperature for me is 45 degrees! I haven't worn a fur coat in five
years––in fact, I haven't worn a winter coat in the last five years.
I favor the shirt over tank outfit too, but I just don't see many
lightweight (enough) long sleeved tops in the stores.
Lily~~going on hunt tomorrow.