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WNTW––the Cashmere Episode

Lil...@webtv.net (Lily)
On the last What Not to Wear, the victim told Stacey and Clinton that
she couldn't wear cashmere because it was itchy. They did their usual
mocking and taunting, but worse was that they insisted she was wrong.
Cashmere is not itchy, they declared. And they rolled their eyes.
They went on and on about it (surprise, ––she got a cashmere sweater and
claimed it didn't feel scratchy.)
Well, I can't wear cashmere either, no matter the quality. IT ITCHES.
The skin on my gets red and irritated. Wool is naturally out of the
quesion also.
They refused to accept the fact that SHE felt uncomfortable in cashmere,
and discounted her reaction to it, just about flatly saying that no one
felt uncomfortable in cashmere.
How ignorant and clueless can you be to discount a subjective
sensitivity with what you claim is an objective fact?
I did a lot of yelling at them during this episode. Did anyone else see
it?
Now, the one the week before with a 32 year old classic hippie and PhD
candidate/prof was wonderful.
She was quick–witted, funny and fearless. She took no shit from nobody,
and returned their smart ass comments with smarter–ass comments.
She was very clever and fiercely independent. She simply refused to try
some of the things they wanted her to––and made fun of the clothes and
how she looked in them. Stacey and Clinton were frustrated and
one–upped through the whole show. It was great!
But––she was slim and attractive to begin with, and in a new dress, with
a great shorter haircut and minimal makeup she looked fantastic. Even
she admitted it.
Lily
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily)
On the last What Not to Wear, the victim told Stacey and Clinton that
she couldn't wear cashmere because it was itchy. They did their usual
mocking and taunting, but worse was that they insisted she was wrong.
Cashmere is not itchy, they declared. And they rolled their eyes.
They went on and on about it (surprise, ––she got a cashmere sweater and
claimed it didn't feel scratchy.)
Well, I can't wear cashmere either, no matter the quality. IT ITCHES.
The skin on my gets red and irritated. Wool is naturally out of the
quesion also.
They refused to accept the fact that SHE felt uncomfortable in cashmere,
and discounted her reaction to it, just about flatly saying that no one
felt uncomfortable in cashmere.
How ignorant and clueless can you be to discount a subjective
sensitivity with what you claim is an objective fact?
I did a lot of yelling at them during this episode. Did anyone else see
it?
Now, the one the week before with a 32 year old classic hippie and PhD
candidate/prof was wonderful.
She was quick–witted, funny and fearless. She took no shit from nobody,
and returned their smart ass comments with smarter–ass comments.
She was very clever and fiercely independent. She simply refused to try
some of the things they wanted her to––and made fun of the clothes and
how she looked in them. Stacey and Clinton were frustrated and
one–upped through the whole show. It was great!
But––she was slim and attractive to begin with, and in a new dress, with
a great shorter haircut and minimal makeup she looked fantastic. Even
she admitted it.
Lily
"Vicki in DC" <Nickycharles2...@yahoo.com>
That was just beyond obnoxious – sometimes cashmere is never
comfortable even after many hand washings to try to soften it.
Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. I wish I'd seen the
episode the week before just to hear the so called FV's comebacks, lol.
I much prefer Trinny and Susannah to S and C even though I only saw 5
minutes of S and C a few weeks ago while channel surfing. After 5
minutes, my own rendition of Sen. Bentsen's words rolled through my
brain, "Trinny and Susannah are friends of mine, Stacey and Clinton
you're no Trinny and Susannah." Click.
But, that said, neither the US nor the UK WNTW is gospel. I love T and
S's advice on many things, especially their dislike of bronzer and
preference for blush colors that actually make a person look like
they've gone for a long walk rather than fallen face down in mud. And a
friend of mine has made herself over top to toe on their advice and has
never looked better. But only wearing black with beiges, greys and
white, never color???? Uh uh, no way. First that would make 3/4 of my
wardrobe fashion don'ts and second, I still like black with color
dammit.
Being open to change is good and all of us get into ruts. But IMO all
of us have a few basic styles and preferences that make us "us" and
that we should keep, fashion guru advice aside. Wearing black w/ bright
colors is one of mine.
Vicki in DC
"Vicki in DC" <Nickycharles2...@yahoo.com>
That was just beyond obnoxious – sometimes cashmere is never
comfortable even after many hand washings to try to soften it.
Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. I wish I'd seen the
episode the week before just to hear the so called FV's comebacks, lol.
I much prefer Trinny and Susannah to S and C even though I only saw 5
minutes of S and C a few weeks ago while channel surfing. After 5
minutes, my own rendition of Sen. Bentsen's words rolled through my
brain, "Trinny and Susannah are friends of mine, Stacey and Clinton
you're no Trinny and Susannah." Click.
But, that said, neither the US nor the UK WNTW is gospel. I love T and
S's advice on many things, especially their dislike of bronzer and
preference for blush colors that actually make a person look like
they've gone for a long walk rather than fallen face down in mud. And a
friend of mine has made herself over top to toe on their advice and has
never looked better. But only wearing black with beiges, greys and
white, never color???? Uh uh, no way. First that would make 3/4 of my
wardrobe fashion don'ts and second, I still like black with color
dammit.
Being open to change is good and all of us get into ruts. But IMO all
of us have a few basic styles and preferences that make us "us" and
that we should keep, fashion guru advice aside. Wearing black w/ bright
colors is one of mine.
Vicki in DC
"Vicki in DC" <Nickycharles2...@yahoo.com>
That was just beyond obnoxious – sometimes cashmere is never
comfortable even after many hand washings to try to soften it.
Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. I wish I'd seen the
episode the week before just to hear the so called FV's comebacks, lol.
I much prefer Trinny and Susannah to S and C even though I only saw 5
minutes of S and C a few weeks ago while channel surfing. After 5
minutes, my own rendition of Sen. Bentsen's words rolled through my
brain, "Trinny and Susannah are friends of mine, Stacey and Clinton
you're no Trinny and Susannah." Click.
But, that said, neither the US nor the UK WNTW is gospel. I love T and
S's advice on many things, especially their dislike of bronzer and
preference for blush colors that actually make a person look like
they've gone for a long walk rather than fallen face down in mud. And a
friend of mine has made herself over top to toe on their advice and has
never looked better. But only wearing black with beiges, greys and
white, never color???? Uh uh, no way. First that would make 3/4 of my
wardrobe fashion don'ts and second, I still like black with color
dammit.
Being open to change is good and all of us get into ruts. But IMO all
of us have a few basic styles and preferences that make us "us" and
that we should keep, fashion guru advice aside. Wearing black w/ bright
colors is one of mine.
Vicki in DC
"Vicki in DC" <Nickycharles2...@yahoo.com>
That was just beyond obnoxious – sometimes cashmere is never
comfortable even after many hand washings to try to soften it.
Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. I wish I'd seen the
episode the week before just to hear the so called FV's comebacks, lol.
I much prefer Trinny and Susannah to S and C even though I only saw 5
minutes of S and C a few weeks ago while channel surfing. After 5
minutes, my own rendition of Sen. Bentsen's words rolled through my
brain, "Trinny and Susannah are friends of mine, Stacey and Clinton
you're no Trinny and Susannah." Click.
But, that said, neither the US nor the UK WNTW is gospel. I love T and
S's advice on many things, especially their dislike of bronzer and
preference for blush colors that actually make a person look like
they've gone for a long walk rather than fallen face down in mud. And a
friend of mine has made herself over top to toe on their advice and has
never looked better. But only wearing black with beiges, greys and
white, never color???? Uh uh, no way. First that would make 3/4 of my
wardrobe fashion don'ts and second, I still like black with color
dammit.
Being open to change is good and all of us get into ruts. But IMO all
of us have a few basic styles and preferences that make us "us" and
that we should keep, fashion guru advice aside. Wearing black w/ bright
colors is one of mine.
Vicki in DC
"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net>
Vicki in DC wrote:
But, that said, neither the US nor the UK WNTW is gospel. And a
friend of mine has made herself over top to toe on their advice and
has
never looked better. But only wearing black with beiges, greys and
white, never color???? Uh uh, no way. First that would make 3/4 of
my
wardrobe fashion don'ts and second, I still like black with color
dammit.
Ooooh me too on the color!! I love color with black no matter what
they say. It perks me up and I feel like it perks up my skintone, too.
Being open to change is good and all of us get into ruts. But IMO all
of us have a few basic styles and preferences that make us "us" and
that we should keep, fashion guru advice aside. Wearing black w/
bright
colors is one of mine.
Vicki in DC
Amen!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I really like both shows and I've watched some of the UK, WNTW shows
during the day a few weeks ago and they were hour long episodes. I'm
assuming these are new shows. They would meet up with dozens and
dozens of women wanting to be made over and would pick 2 each episode.
They would go to their homes, talk to friends and family and 'live' the
women's lives for one day. Very interesting shows! What I like better
about the US version is we see the makeovers beginning to end. What I
mean is we see Nick's cuts, color, and advice on how to style their new
hair do's. Carmindy gives great advice, do's AND don'ts, on eye
shadow, blush, concealer, lip color, and skin care. That's the only
thing I don't like about the UK version; they appear after all the
shopping with new hair styles and "faces" with no clue about the
makeovers from the neck up. And that's part of the overall 'new
person.'
"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net>
Vicki in DC wrote:
But, that said, neither the US nor the UK WNTW is gospel. And a
friend of mine has made herself over top to toe on their advice and
has
never looked better. But only wearing black with beiges, greys and
white, never color???? Uh uh, no way. First that would make 3/4 of
my
wardrobe fashion don'ts and second, I still like black with color
dammit.
Ooooh me too on the color!! I love color with black no matter what
they say. It perks me up and I feel like it perks up my skintone, too.
Being open to change is good and all of us get into ruts. But IMO all
of us have a few basic styles and preferences that make us "us" and
that we should keep, fashion guru advice aside. Wearing black w/
bright
colors is one of mine.
Vicki in DC
Amen!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I really like both shows and I've watched some of the UK, WNTW shows
during the day a few weeks ago and they were hour long episodes. I'm
assuming these are new shows. They would meet up with dozens and
dozens of women wanting to be made over and would pick 2 each episode.
They would go to their homes, talk to friends and family and 'live' the
women's lives for one day. Very interesting shows! What I like better
about the US version is we see the makeovers beginning to end. What I
mean is we see Nick's cuts, color, and advice on how to style their new
hair do's. Carmindy gives great advice, do's AND don'ts, on eye
shadow, blush, concealer, lip color, and skin care. That's the only
thing I don't like about the UK version; they appear after all the
shopping with new hair styles and "faces" with no clue about the
makeovers from the neck up. And that's part of the overall 'new
person.'
Userb3 <use...@yahoo.com>
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily) wrote in news:209–4281AE05–...@storefull–
3211.bay.webtv.net:
Well, I can't wear cashmere either, no matter the quality. IT ITCHES.
The skin on my gets red and irritated. Wool is naturally out of the
quesion also.
I'm with you! I can't stand any kind of wool next to my skin.
––
use...@yahoo.com
http://www.gopchoice.org/
Userb3 <use...@yahoo.com>
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily) wrote in news:209–4281AE05–...@storefull–
3211.bay.webtv.net:
Well, I can't wear cashmere either, no matter the quality. IT ITCHES.
The skin on my gets red and irritated. Wool is naturally out of the
quesion also.
I'm with you! I can't stand any kind of wool next to my skin.
––
use...@yahoo.com
http://www.gopchoice.org/
Userb3 <use...@yahoo.com>
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily) wrote in news:209–4281AE05–...@storefull–
3211.bay.webtv.net:
Well, I can't wear cashmere either, no matter the quality. IT ITCHES.
The skin on my gets red and irritated. Wool is naturally out of the
quesion also.
I'm with you! I can't stand any kind of wool next to my skin.
––
use...@yahoo.com
http://www.gopchoice.org/
Userb3 <use...@yahoo.com>
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily) wrote in news:209–4281AE05–...@storefull–
3211.bay.webtv.net:
Well, I can't wear cashmere either, no matter the quality. IT ITCHES.
The skin on my gets red and irritated. Wool is naturally out of the
quesion also.
I'm with you! I can't stand any kind of wool next to my skin.
––
use...@yahoo.com
http://www.gopchoice.org/
"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net>
Vicki in DC wrote:
But, that said, neither the US nor the UK WNTW is gospel. And a
friend of mine has made herself over top to toe on their advice and
has
never looked better. But only wearing black with beiges, greys and
white, never color???? Uh uh, no way. First that would make 3/4 of
my
wardrobe fashion don'ts and second, I still like black with color
dammit.
Ooooh me too on the color!! I love color with black no matter what
they say. It perks me up and I feel like it perks up my skintone, too.
Being open to change is good and all of us get into ruts. But IMO all
of us have a few basic styles and preferences that make us "us" and
that we should keep, fashion guru advice aside. Wearing black w/
bright
colors is one of mine.
Vicki in DC
Amen!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I really like both shows and I've watched some of the UK, WNTW shows
during the day a few weeks ago and they were hour long episodes. I'm
assuming these are new shows. They would meet up with dozens and
dozens of women wanting to be made over and would pick 2 each episode.
They would go to their homes, talk to friends and family and 'live' the
women's lives for one day. Very interesting shows! What I like better
about the US version is we see the makeovers beginning to end. What I
mean is we see Nick's cuts, color, and advice on how to style their new
hair do's. Carmindy gives great advice, do's AND don'ts, on eye
shadow, blush, concealer, lip color, and skin care. That's the only
thing I don't like about the UK version; they appear after all the
shopping with new hair styles and "faces" with no clue about the
makeovers from the neck up. And that's part of the overall 'new
person.'
"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net>
Vicki in DC wrote:
But, that said, neither the US nor the UK WNTW is gospel. And a
friend of mine has made herself over top to toe on their advice and
has
never looked better. But only wearing black with beiges, greys and
white, never color???? Uh uh, no way. First that would make 3/4 of
my
wardrobe fashion don'ts and second, I still like black with color
dammit.
Ooooh me too on the color!! I love color with black no matter what
they say. It perks me up and I feel like it perks up my skintone, too.
Being open to change is good and all of us get into ruts. But IMO all
of us have a few basic styles and preferences that make us "us" and
that we should keep, fashion guru advice aside. Wearing black w/
bright
colors is one of mine.
Vicki in DC
Amen!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I really like both shows and I've watched some of the UK, WNTW shows
during the day a few weeks ago and they were hour long episodes. I'm
assuming these are new shows. They would meet up with dozens and
dozens of women wanting to be made over and would pick 2 each episode.
They would go to their homes, talk to friends and family and 'live' the
women's lives for one day. Very interesting shows! What I like better
about the US version is we see the makeovers beginning to end. What I
mean is we see Nick's cuts, color, and advice on how to style their new
hair do's. Carmindy gives great advice, do's AND don'ts, on eye
shadow, blush, concealer, lip color, and skin care. That's the only
thing I don't like about the UK version; they appear after all the
shopping with new hair styles and "faces" with no clue about the
makeovers from the neck up. And that's part of the overall 'new
person.'
Lauri <res0r...@spamlessverizon.net>
On 11 May 2005 18:15:43 GMT, Userb3 <use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily) wrote in news:209–4281AE05–...@storefull–
3211.bay.webtv.net:
I'm with you! I can't stand any kind of wool next to my skin.
Same here. Even a tiny amount of wool in a sweater makes me itch. It
just feels so prickly and .......well, itchy.
Lauri in WA
I like my email spamless
Lauri <res0r...@spamlessverizon.net>
On 11 May 2005 18:15:43 GMT, Userb3 <use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily) wrote in news:209–4281AE05–...@storefull–
3211.bay.webtv.net:
I'm with you! I can't stand any kind of wool next to my skin.
Same here. Even a tiny amount of wool in a sweater makes me itch. It
just feels so prickly and .......well, itchy.
Lauri in WA
I like my email spamless
Lauri <res0r...@spamlessverizon.net>
On 11 May 2005 18:15:43 GMT, Userb3 <use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily) wrote in news:209–4281AE05–...@storefull–
3211.bay.webtv.net:
I'm with you! I can't stand any kind of wool next to my skin.
Same here. Even a tiny amount of wool in a sweater makes me itch. It
just feels so prickly and .......well, itchy.
Lauri in WA
I like my email spamless
Lauri <res0r...@spamlessverizon.net>
On 11 May 2005 18:15:43 GMT, Userb3 <use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Lil...@webtv.net (Lily) wrote in news:209–4281AE05–...@storefull–
3211.bay.webtv.net:
I'm with you! I can't stand any kind of wool next to my skin.
Same here. Even a tiny amount of wool in a sweater makes me itch. It
just feels so prickly and .......well, itchy.
Lauri in WA
I like my email spamless