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My husband yelled at me.

Qintes <rn...@yahoo.com>
He said if I keep buying makeup and bags he wasn't going to let me talk
to you ladies anymore. Because I told him I need this Michael Kors
satchel or I'll die.
http://tinyurl.com/69bqh
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need. He
doesn't understand a woman's needs.
Pam the satchelless
Ruzinthra the Ruki <ruzint...@ruki.com>
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:24:54 GMT, Qintes <rn...@yahoo.com>
coughed and sputtered, and managed to choke out these words:
He said if I keep buying makeup and bags he wasn't going to let me talk
to you ladies anymore. Because I told him I need this Michael Kors
satchel or I'll die.
http://tinyurl.com/69bqh
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need. He
doesn't understand a woman's needs.
Pam the satchelless
oh, Pam honey. i'm so sorry this happened to you! :(
david, who thinks somehow that Easter candy won't compensate you
on this
––
"Mr. Lancaster" as you call him is soooo full
of donkey doo that it isn't funny. Seeking
his advice is akin to saying "lie to me".
–Walter, AMOE, 01/26/2005
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That's nothing,I had 25 purses....every size,shape and design.I saw it
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"Jamie" <zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net>
"Qintes" <rn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qHtKd.7$AY...@trndny05...
He said if I keep buying makeup and bags he wasn't going to let me talk
to you ladies anymore. Because I told him I need this Michael Kors
satchel or I'll die.
http://tinyurl.com/69bqh
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need. He
doesn't understand a woman's needs.
Pam the satchelless
Oh, Pam, I feel your pain. I just bid on two Coach totes on EBay – one
bright pink and the other signature. The pink auction ended before the
other (at a respectable price) and before I decided that I REALLY wanted the
signature one and was willing to pay retail. That's the price I ended up
paying and now I'm going to have to turn around and EBay the pink one (by
mutual agreement) because I paid so much for the signature bag. It was
almost $500 for the two I'm totally embarassed to say and I'm choking on it.
Anyway, I LOVE that Michael Kors satchel, but ....... I can't pay for it!!!
And all I can say is that I'm glad this bag is a signature print, and
therefore mostly timeless, because I'm going to be carrying it for a
lo–o–o–ong time!
I'm not even going to be the one to enable you in this!!
Jamie
popnrockjean...@aol.com (Popnrockjeanine)
I feel your pain! Everyone gives me grief about my shopping habits. The funny
thing is that it's MY MONEY!
Miss J
Add some excitement to your walls..... http://pop–n–rock.blogspot.com/
http://kittenwtw.blogspot.com/
"cheryl" <czacc...@msn.com>
Thank you!!!! I get the same thing from my boyfriend and his
family.....he gets upset when I spend MY MONEY.....the worst is they
hate, hate hate me buying starbucks....i mean i have to hide it and it
drives me nuts.
I was married 25 years and my x husband never questioned my spending
habits. I don't like it one bit.
Popnrockjeanine wrote:
I feel your pain! Everyone gives me grief about my shopping habits.
The funny
thing is that it's MY MONEY!
Miss J
Add some excitement to your walls.....
http://pop–n–rock.blogspot.com/
http://kittenwtw.blogspot.com/
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>
"Qintes" <rn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qHtKd.7$AY...@trndny05...
He said if I keep buying makeup and bags he wasn't going to let me talk to
you ladies anymore. Because I told him I need this Michael Kors satchel
or I'll die.
http://tinyurl.com/69bqh
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need. He doesn't
understand a woman's needs.
Pam the satchelless
How do you manage to live with that selfish bastard?<G>
You might want to point out to him that your addiction is cheaper than fur,
waaaaaay cheaper than "real" jewelry, NOT an issue of health or fidelity...
If you do a really good job, he will end up *begging* you to buy more
purses!
cofarb
Veronica Moonlit <veronicaMoon...@mchsi.com>
Qintes wrote:
He said if I keep buying makeup and bags he wasn't going to let me talk
to you ladies anymore. Because I told him I need this Michael Kors
satchel or I'll die.
http://tinyurl.com/69bqh
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need. He
doesn't understand a woman's needs.
Pam the satchelless
Perhaps you better not tell him that you "need" a Birkin and a Kelly
too. :–)
I can see how bags can become addictive.
Veronica
––
Makeup, it takes believing in. Like a magic carpet, it's belief that
makes it fly. Otherwise, it's just a rug.
If you believe in it, makeup has a magic all it's own.
Of course, makeup is only dime–store magic. But it works well enough,
when it's used properly.",
the makeup artist, from the book Sooner or Later, based on the 1978 TV
movie of the same name.
"Stevie" <stevie.wil...@gmail.com>
roflmao. I LOVE this thread.. it's so funny. and sooooooooo true!
Stevie
Crabbing_G...@webtv.net (Elmers Love)
Simply tell him he'll be snatcless :)))
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


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"Qintes" <rn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qHtKd.7$AY...@trndny05...
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>
Amen, sister!
cofarb
Thanks, Cofarb. We gotta' stick together against those bossy jerks.
:–)
JN
Stacy Ferguson <stac...@stacyef.net>
In article <1106940414.527397.111...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"cheryl" <czacc...@msn.com> wrote:
Thank you!!!! I get the same thing from my boyfriend and his
family.....he gets upset when I spend MY MONEY.....the worst is they
hate, hate hate me buying starbucks....i mean i have to hide it and it
drives me nuts.
I was married 25 years and my x husband never questioned my spending
habits. I don't like it one bit.
I'd never tolerate having my spending habits scrutinized by my husband
(or anyone else) but that's because as far as I'm concerned, what's mine
is mine unless it's the portion I put into our joint account for
expenses (I feel the same way about how he spends his money). I lived
alone from the time I left for college until he moved in with me 22
years later and I was far too set in my ways and habits to let someone
come in and scrutinize them. Besides, I spent so many years on lower
incomes (during grad school and subsequent post–docs paying no more than
$28K/year) that once I started working "real jobs" with much higher
salaries at age 36, I wasn't going to deprive myself of all the little
things I couldn't afford but wanted while I got my career to that point.
I controlled my spending for years to get to develop a career that would
allow me more luxuries than I'd have if I took a job straight out of
college so I decided to pay myself back for the inconvenience for a
while.
Now that I've accumulated enough "stuff", like non–IKEA furniture :),
high end cosmetics and better clothing than typically seen on a grad
student or starving scientist, my spending patterns have readjusted
themselves and while I still splurge on handbags and quality clothing,
I'm far more under control than I was a few years ago. I've got the max
amount possible going into the 401K, I can pay my bills and I still can
afford to splurge. Life is good, my choices were correct and I'm not
going to second guess myself now!
Stacy
fndthc...@aol.com (FndThCure)
Message edited:
JN wisely said:
Nobody says "I won't let you" or picks my friends *for* me and winds up
still going to bed with me at night. That's bullshit. I'm nobody's slave and
I've always earned my *OWN* money in which to spend.>
Well said, even when I was raising my son it was an equal partership, do not
let a man tell you what you can or cannot buy!
Kathi
"You can't buy happiness, but you can bloody well charge it" Edina Monsoon
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


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Trilby <p...@LOVELYmidway.uchicago.SPAMedu>
cofarb wrote:


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"jjjjjuliep" <jjjjju...@aol.com>
Ruzinthra the Ruki wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:24:54 GMT, Qintes <rn...@yahoo.com>
coughed and sputtered, and managed to choke out these words:
oh, Pam honey. i'm so sorry this happened to you! :(
david, who thinks somehow that Easter candy won't compensate you
on this
Maybe you didn't notice the "humour or irony" [sic] in her post. See,
Pam has a healthy sense of humor and I believe she was displaying it
for us in her post.
Pam K <my2p...@noyahoospam.com>
In article <qHtKd.7$AY...@trndny05>, Qintes says...
He said if I keep buying makeup and bags he wasn't going to let me talk
to you ladies anymore. Because I told him I need this Michael Kors
satchel or I'll die.
http://tinyurl.com/69bqh
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need. He
doesn't understand a woman's needs.
Pam the satchelless
Oh, you poor, poor thing. See, what you have to do is get him hooked on
something, oh, say power tools. Exactly how many circular saws and cordless
drills does one man need any way? (the answer is several.)A handbag collection
can have a definite corelation to the number of tools in the garage : )
If you wait a bit, the bag will go on sale at Macy's and you'll get cofarb bucks
galore!
We should set up a support group for men who don't understand the purse and shoe
thing.
––
Pam K
my2p...@yahoo.com
Crabbing_G...@webtv.net (Elmers Love)
Pam
I really thought that this post was funny and my responses weren't meant
to cause hard feelings just for fun only ;)
Go for it !
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


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Pam
I really thought that this post was funny and my responses weren't meant
to cause hard feelings just for fun only ;)
Go for it !
Ditto. Or tritto...
cofarb
Charlie Perrin <c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net>
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:24:54 GMT, Qintes wrote:
He said if I keep buying makeup and bags he wasn't going to let
me talk to you ladies anymore.
In that case, tell him that you'll just talk to JoeinSouthFla,
Ruddell, Ruzinthra the Ruki, and yours truly.
Between the four of us, we can recommend a cornucopia of potential
purchases.
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need.
He doesn't understand a woman's needs.
It could be worse... you could be wanting an iPod and a Treo
smartphone to put in the Coach bag.
"Mary" <absolutelym...@hotmail.calm>
or like me, my MP3 player and Treo 650 smartphone are in a "k–mart
handbag", lol.
Mary


"Charlie Perrin" <c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:24:54 GMT, Qintes wrote:
In that case, tell him that you'll just talk to JoeinSouthFla,
Ruddell, Ruzinthra the Ruki, and yours truly.
Between the four of us, we can recommend a cornucopia of potential
purchases.
It could be worse... you could be wanting an iPod and a Treo
smartphone to put in the Coach bag.
Ruzinthra the Ruki <ruzint...@ruki.com>
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:08:11 GMT, Charlie Perrin
<c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net> coughed and sputtered, and
managed to choke out these words:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:24:54 GMT, Qintes wrote:
In that case, tell him that you'll just talk to JoeinSouthFla,
Ruddell, Ruzinthra the Ruki, and yours truly.
Between the four of us, we can recommend a cornucopia of potential
purchases.
hey, Pam, do you think it would be ok to buy gifts for others?
i'd really like this:
http://www.eluxury.com/browse/product_detail.jhtml?styleid=10188852&SectionID=6000
(thanks!)
david
––
"Mr. Lancaster" as you call him is soooo full
of donkey doo that it isn't funny. Seeking
his advice is akin to saying "lie to me".
–Walter, AMOE, 01/26/2005
caryper...@aol.comnospam (Caryperk39)
Ask him for it for Valentine's Day! It's gift–giving time in 2 weeks and that
would be just about the right price, lol.
cary
"Jamie" <zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net>


"Caryperk39" <caryper...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Ask him for it for Valentine's Day! It's gift–giving time in 2 weeks and
that
would be just about the right price, lol.
cary
Hey, Cary,
That's a good one! That's the one I used to justify my new Coach tote!
Yeah, it worked!
Jamie
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


"Caryperk39" <caryper...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Ask him for it for Valentine's Day! It's gift–giving time in 2 weeks and
that
would be just about the right price, lol.
cary
Ummmmm, no. Valentine's Day gifts are supposed to be from the heart. The
person's spouse or lover is supposed to think up a gift idea all on their
own as a reflection of their feelings for the other person. Otherwise, it's
spoils the romance of it all, honestly. If it's not from the heart, why
*bother* to get your mate a ST. VALENTINE'S day gift? It defeats the whole
purpose of the holiday's meaning!!!
(The original poster's husband doesn't sound too romantic too begin with,
however, and he seems rather bossy and controlling, so he most likely
doesn't fall into the romantic idea making category, however.)
JN
whirlygirly <whirlygirlygirlSPAMF...@gmail.com>
The Spangliator wrote:
Ummmmm, no. Valentine's Day gifts are supposed to be from the heart. The
person's spouse or lover is supposed to think up a gift idea all on their
own as a reflection of their feelings for the other person. Otherwise, it's
spoils the romance of it all, honestly. If it's not from the heart, why
*bother* to get your mate a ST. VALENTINE'S day gift? It defeats the whole
purpose of the holiday's meaning!!!
I don't see how it's any less "from the heart" if he gets her something
he *knows* she wants.
Heck, for all we know, maybe that's the reason he didn't want her to buy
it for herself!
wg
––
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
–Benjamin Franklin
ami kio <...@cant–take–anymore–spam.com>
On 1/29/05 4:14 PM, in article
6VTKd.137758$NO5.134...@twister.rdc–kc.rr.com, "whirlygirly"
<whirlygirlygirlSPAMF...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Spangliator wrote:
I don't see how it's any less "from the heart" if he gets her something
he *knows* she wants.
Heck, for all we know, maybe that's the reason he didn't want her to buy
it for herself!
wg
I agree with wg. If DH buys me something that he thinks is stupid/waste of
money but buys it anyway b/c he knows that I want it, I would find that
romantic! :) Frankly, I have a bunch of lovely but useless stuff already
–– I prefer gifts that are at least somewhat functional.
ami
"Jamie" <zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net>


"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Most men who spoil with material items and are not INVENTIVE about ROMANCE
haven't made it past the third date with me. I find them terribly
cardboard;
flat and boring; void of personality and the ability to be open and
HONEST.
What I like in men is a far cry from what *most women* I know have merely
settled for, quite honestly.
Most women I know want money, purses, clothes, and a big swimming pool. I
prefer a man with depth who listens well, is a creative thinker, has a
sense
of humor that knocks my socks off, prepares and thinks out special
anniversaries, dates, and holidays, writes actual *MESSAGES* inside of
cards
instead of just a heart with a little arrow through it and his name, and
above all, who *understands me* over the material teenaged lavish gift
buying bullshit.
It actually says TONS about who I am as a person. I prefer men for WHO
they
are at the central core and not for WHAT THEY CAN BUY ME!!!!!! I don't use
them for purses and high heels, in other words. That's fake and that isn't
real love.
JN
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


"Jamie" <zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net> wrote in message
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Where's your comment, Jamie? All you did was re–post what I said but your
comment is missing.
Thanks. Perhaps re–post what you were trying to comment on.
JN
"Jamie" <zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net>


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"Caryperk39" <caryper...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Ummmmm, no. Valentine's Day gifts are supposed to be from the heart. The
person's spouse or lover is supposed to think up a gift idea all on their
own as a reflection of their feelings for the other person. Otherwise,
it's
spoils the romance of it all, honestly. If it's not from the heart, why
*bother* to get your mate a ST. VALENTINE'S day gift? It defeats the whole
purpose of the holiday's meaning!!!
(The original poster's husband doesn't sound too romantic too begin with,
however, and he seems rather bossy and controlling, so he most likely
doesn't fall into the romantic idea making category, however.)
JN
JN,
I respectfully disagree. For me, (and others' ideas WILL differ) my DH
knows that finding something that I badly want is as good a gift from the
heart as I could ever want. The love and romance of it lies in the fact
that he cares the most to pay attention to my wants and needs. (Thus him
standing over my shoulder while I bid on that Coach tote on E–Bay saying
"How badly do you want it? Keep bidding.") Enough to remember about
something that I mentioned once in passing, even years in the past, and
track these items down, be they clothing, purses, shoes, books, CD's, trips
to other countries, or more babies (OK, that's really pushing it!). But you
know what I mean. After 17 years together, the outward and inward display
of our love for each other is in listening closely to the other and
discerning what matters (and even noting things that matter, but maybe not
so much). DH's gifts are always from the heart and I hope he continues to
listen to me enough to receive the hundreds of ideas that I've thought of
and he's filed away for future reference!!
For me, it all boils down to this. His thinking of a gift all on his own is
not the romantic part. The romantic part is in the listening to me and
remembering it for as long as it takes! That's real love and romance!
Jamie
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


"ami kio" <...@cant–take–anymore–spam.com> wrote in message
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On 1/29/05 4:14 PM, in article
6VTKd.137758$NO5.134...@twister.rdc–kc.rr.com, "whirlygirly"
<whirlygirlygirlSPAMF...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with wg. If DH buys me something that he thinks is stupid/waste
of
money but buys it anyway b/c he knows that I want it, I would find that
romantic! :) Frankly, I have a bunch of lovely but useless stuff already
–– I prefer gifts that are at least somewhat functional.
ami
The holiday is about love, therefore the gift should be a reflection of the
person's love. I don't think a purse or satchel even fits that description.
A purse is what you get somebody for Christmas or their birthday. A trip to
a bed and breakfast by the ocean is what you get them for Valentine's day.
I would think that I had *THE* most unromantic, *thoughtless*,
materialistic, rush and shop at the last minute, airheaded boob for a
boyfriend in the world if I got purse for Valentine's day, but that's just
my opinion and I've always received thoroughly *sentimental* gifts and
little love poems, weekends at hotels with champagne and candles, etc.
The day is about ROMANCE and being loved and *in love*, not about a gift as
simple, boring, mundane, high school–ish and thoughtless as a PURSE.
Seriously, if a guy can't think up a good Valentine's Day gift it says an
enormous amount to me about whether or not he's going to be lame in the sack
and closed off and introverted regarding his emotions if I marry him,
personally, but I *PREFER* men with great personalities who are sentimental
over macho guys who are spendy/trendy/and who spoil me with lavish *material
items* and I've always been that way.
Most men who spoil with material items and are not INVENTIVE about ROMANCE
haven't made it past the third date with me. I find them terribly cardboard;
flat and boring; void of personality and the ability to be open and HONEST.
What I like in men is a far cry from what *most women* I know have merely
settled for, quite honestly.
Most women I know want money, purses, clothes, and a big swimming pool. I
prefer a man with depth who listens well, is a creative thinker, has a sense
of humor that knocks my socks off, prepares and thinks out special
anniversaries, dates, and holidays, writes actual *MESSAGES* inside of cards
instead of just a heart with a little arrow through it and his name, and
above all, who *understands me* over the material teenaged lavish gift
buying bullshit.
It actually says TONS about who I am as a person. I prefer men for WHO they
are at the central core and not for WHAT THEY CAN BUY ME!!!!!! I don't use
them for purses and high heels, in other words. That's fake and that isn't
real love.
JN
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


"Jamie" <zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net> wrote in message
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The romantic part is in the listening to me and
remembering... Jamie
Um, no. Sorry to have to inform you, but true *ROMANCE* involves
reciprocation; it is about *two* people's needs, wants, and desires and not
just about one person shutting up and caving in to the other. In terms of
gift giving, you're saying that if it's from him you want it to be all about
you. Not only is that selfish, but it lacks the element of surprise. What if
he *MADE* you something himself?
Sounds like you'd be bummed because he didn't "listen" to the list of
material items on that Santa List that you *SHOULD HAVE* outgrown many years
ago when you gave up being a little girl who wants to be *spoiled* for being
a woman who's an adult and doesn't need a thousand leather and silk
*possessions* to feel wanted and whole.
JN
Qintes <rn...@yahoo.com>
Elmers Love wrote:
Pam
I really thought that this post was funny and my responses weren't meant
to cause hard feelings just for fun only ;)
Go for it !
Your responses were funny! No hard feelings at all!
Pam
"Jamie" <zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net>


"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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The holiday is about love, therefore the gift should be a reflection of
the
person's love. I don't think a purse or satchel even fits that
description.
A purse is what you get somebody for Christmas or their birthday. A trip
to
a bed and breakfast by the ocean is what you get them for Valentine's day.
I would think that I had *THE* most unromantic, *thoughtless*,
materialistic, rush and shop at the last minute, airheaded boob for a
boyfriend in the world if I got purse for Valentine's day, but that's just
my opinion and I've always received thoroughly *sentimental* gifts and
little love poems, weekends at hotels with champagne and candles, etc.
The day is about ROMANCE and being loved and *in love*, not about a gift
as
simple, boring, mundane, high school–ish and thoughtless as a PURSE.
Seriously, if a guy can't think up a good Valentine's Day gift it says an
enormous amount to me about whether or not he's going to be lame in the
sack
and closed off and introverted regarding his emotions if I marry him,
personally, but I *PREFER* men with great personalities who are
sentimental
over macho guys who are spendy/trendy/and who spoil me with lavish
*material
items* and I've always been that way.
Most men who spoil with material items and are not INVENTIVE about ROMANCE
haven't made it past the third date with me. I find them terribly
cardboard;
flat and boring; void of personality and the ability to be open and
HONEST.
What I like in men is a far cry from what *most women* I know have merely
settled for, quite honestly.
Most women I know want money, purses, clothes, and a big swimming pool. I
prefer a man with depth who listens well, is a creative thinker, has a
sense
of humor that knocks my socks off, prepares and thinks out special
anniversaries, dates, and holidays, writes actual *MESSAGES* inside of
cards
instead of just a heart with a little arrow through it and his name, and
above all, who *understands me* over the material teenaged lavish gift
buying bullshit.
It actually says TONS about who I am as a person. I prefer men for WHO
they
are at the central core and not for WHAT THEY CAN BUY ME!!!!!! I don't use
them for purses and high heels, in other words. That's fake and that isn't
real love.
JN
I'm sorry that this relatively insignificant thread about a suggested
Valentine's Day gift has inspired such vitriol in you. I hope you find the
person you're looking for.
Jamie
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


"Jamie" <zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net> wrote in message
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I'm sorry that this relatively insignificant thread about a suggested
Valentine's Day gift has inspired such vitriol in you. I hope you find
the
person you're looking for.
How do you know he's not sitting right next to me? Obviously you can't
handle the fact that I confronted you with your materialism and your need
for love to be *bought* rather than expressed, Jamie. It just goes to show
that you truly lack depth and need to grow up and get rid of the notion that
the price of a purse equates to one's fondness and ability to "remember" and
"listen" to you.
Thanks for such an immature, flighty, baseless response. The personality
type I spoke of exists all over the world. Too bad you're too shallow and
materialistic to take a risk and go near him.
I think this is actually a very deep thread when approached with a
discerning enough lens, quite honestly. It's not insignificant at all. If it
were, you'd never have responded to it in the first place. It looks like you
just can't handle somebody calling you out for the shallow minded, wishing
to be spoiled person who equates love and romance with monetary possessions
that you are.
Too bad, so sad. Boo hoo for you. When all else fails and you can't face off
with somebody run the other way and call the thread "insignificant". What a
trooper you are!!! Now there's the spirit! Atta girl!
JN
Lindy_Joa...@hotmail.com
The Spangliator wrote:
<snipped>
I prefer men for WHO they
are at the central core and not for WHAT THEY CAN BUY ME!!!!!! I
don't use
them for purses and high heels, in other words. That's fake and that
isn't
real love.
I might be mistaken (but I doubt it)...I believe the original poster
was merely saying she wanted a satchel. I don't think she––or anyone
else who has been posting on this *previously* funny thread––was even
implying that she use him for what's in his wallet.
LJ, who is kicking herself for getting involved but somehow can't sit
back and read this :)
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


<Lindy_Joa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Spangliator wrote:
<snipped>
I prefer men for WHO they
don't use
isn't
I might be mistaken (but I doubt it)...I believe the original poster
was merely saying she wanted a satchel. I don't think she––or anyone
else who has been posting on this *previously* funny thread––was even
implying that she use him for what's in his wallet.
LJ, who is kicking herself for getting involved but somehow can't sit
back and read this :)
It was suggested by a later poster within the thread that the original
poster ask for it for Valentine's Day and Valentine's Day isn't a holiday
that's about selfishness, materialism, and lavish, high priced purses,
unless you're a shallow person to begin with.
Hell, I've already proven this point, because everybody who's shallow and
begs for spendy gifts on this holiday has shot me down for making the one
REAL and true comment about what this particular DAY of celebration is
supposed to STAND FOR/MEAN from a sentimental and loving point of view.
JN
"klb" <kl...@uakron.edu>
Sorry for the top post. I've been married to a totally clueless guy for 26
years (1/27/79). He has always been the worst gift–giver I've ever
encountered. His intent was always good, but the actual gift...oh–KAAAYY!
It used to mean a big deal to me for quite a few years into our marriage,
but the older I got and taking in what a wonderful husband, fantastic father
and marvelous son–in–law he was–––well, the "stuff" just didn't seem to
matter one whit. I've been blessed, even though he's a total dope on
Valentine's Day. BFG.
Sue
––Hang Up and Drive––
www.bushgreenwatch.org
Lindy_Joa...@hotmail.com
Were there any times that he has forgotten a special occasion? Just
tell him it's a "gift" for whatever that "forgotten occasion" happened
to be... :)
Or you could always go ahead and get the bag and if he says something
just say, "Oh! I thought you meant I couldn't get the *other* bag..."
charles...@webtv.net
...your husband committed domestic violence. Consult a lawyer, the
police and start divorce proceedings immediately. You can win a huge
settlement offer for life. Then and only then, you can live like a
queen......"the power lies in the courts".
Long live GIRLPOWER!!!
sharon p.
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The Spangliator wrote:
<snipped>
I prefer men for WHO they
don't use
isn't
I might be mistaken (but I doubt it)...I believe the original poster
was merely saying she wanted a satchel. I don't think she––or anyone
else who has been posting on this *previously* funny thread––was even
implying that she use him for what's in his wallet.
LJ, who is kicking herself for getting involved but somehow can't sit
back and read this :)
Hey, I started it. I was trying to think of a way for her to get the purse &
figured there would be something coming her way on Valentine's day – maybe it
could be the handbag! I didn't mean to start a war over what the perfect
husband should do for his wife. Everybody's different!
I don't care if my DH gives me a purse he knows that I want, or sticks roses in
the snow leading up to the front door, or prepares a special dinner. he's done
it all and they are all appreciated equally. (though he's still really proud
of himself for putting all those roses in the snow :–)
after 25 years together, I know the gift isn't the important part – it's having
him here with me that counts. I'm sure some years my gifts make him really
happy and others are just so–so....this year I am getting a couples massage,
and I know we'll have a great time together.
Your motive in not buying the purse because he asked you not to is to be a good
partner, and his motive in getting it for you anyway is to be a good partner.
That would work in our marriage, but perhaps not in others.
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>


"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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It was suggested by a later poster within the thread that the original
poster ask for it for Valentine's Day and Valentine's Day isn't a
holiday that's about selfishness, materialism, and lavish, high priced
purses, unless you're a shallow person to begin with.
Hell, I've already proven this point, because everybody who's shallow
and begs for spendy gifts on this holiday has shot me down for making
the one REAL and true comment about what this particular DAY of
celebration is supposed to STAND FOR/MEAN from a sentimental and
loving point of view.
JN
The love of my life bought me an amazing spendy gift for Valentine's Day
this year and it came totally out of the blue. He saw something at a
store and called me at home to drive there and see if I wanted it. It
really threw me off guard because it was a total suprise. I've kept
this guy for more than 30 years because of who he is but I'd be a fool
to turn down a fabulous gift. Details won't be given until Valentine's
Day :)
Audrey
OT: There are often a few threads every January where people become
upset and attack others who have different opinions. It happened to me
last year and it is certainly true this year. I don't know if this is
part of post holiday let down, bad weather, or boredom. Sometimes we
just need to lighten up and not take remarks so personally.
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In <BLednVCIPfkfAGfcRVn–...@adelphia.com> cofarb wrote:
"Qintes" <rn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qHtKd.7$AY...@
trndny05...
How do you manage to live with that selfish bastard?<G>
No kidding. What's the guys purpose in life!
You might want to point out to him that your addiction is cheaper than
fur, waaaaaay cheaper than "real" jewelry, NOT an issue of health or
fidelity... If you do a really good job, he will end up *begging* you
to buy more purses!
Begging? Heck, he should be showering the poor girl with gifts as an
apology...
––
Cheers
Dennis
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stephanie <stepha...@keybeaute.com>
cofarb wrote:
"Qintes" <rn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qHtKd.7$AY...@trndny05...

How do you manage to live with that selfish bastard?<G>
You might want to point out to him that your addiction is cheaper than fur,
waaaaaay cheaper than "real" jewelry, NOT an issue of health or fidelity...
If you do a really good job, he will end up *begging* you to buy more
purses!
cofarb
Cofarb, I so hope you weave this topic into a chapter of your economic
theory book. Or, at least, a couple of guest editorials in the fashion
and beauty press. Once you've published a small body of work, I believe
a talk show is in the bag. May I please be one of your first guests?
–sk
ami kio <...@cant–take–anymore–spam.com>
On 1/29/05 9:14 PM, in article 1107054767.213...@faramir, "The Spangliator"
<spangliek...@netscape.net> wrote:


"ami kio" <...@cant–take–anymore–spam.com> wrote in message
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The holiday is about love, therefore the gift should be a reflection of the
person's love. I don't think a purse or satchel even fits that description.
I don't see how "satisfying a person's wants even though it isn't something
you value" isn't a reflection of love.
A purse is what you get somebody for Christmas or their birthday. A trip to
a bed and breakfast by the ocean is what you get them for Valentine's day.
I would think that I had *THE* most unromantic, *thoughtless*,
materialistic, rush and shop at the last minute, airheaded boob for a
boyfriend in the world if I got purse for Valentine's day, but that's just
my opinion and I've always received thoroughly *sentimental* gifts and
little love poems, weekends at hotels with champagne and candles, etc.
The day is about ROMANCE and being loved and *in love*, not about a gift as
simple, boring, mundane, high school–ish and thoughtless as a PURSE.
This is obviously a "one woman's haute couture is another woman's Old Navy"
scenario. If I had been silently lusting for a year over a Hermes Birkin
and my SO surprised me with one for Valentine's, I'd be delighted; however,
if he got me a purse that I found ugly, I must admit that I'd be pretty
annoyed. It's not the object that concerns me –– it would be the fact that
he did (not) pay attention to what I was interested in.
If my SO gave me all the items you listed, I would dismiss those "ideal"
Valentine's gifts as trite clichéd cop–outs that rely on a stereotypical
notion of romance. That's not to say that they're horrible gifts –– they
just would be horrible gifts *for me* b/c they're not things that I value.
Those same gifts given to you wouldn't be trite and clichéd b/c they're what
*you* want.
Seriously, if a guy can't think up a good Valentine's Day gift it says an
enormous amount to me about whether or not he's going to be lame in the sack
and closed off and introverted regarding his emotions if I marry him,
Gift giving is difficult for some. After 10+ years of birthdays and
Christmases, I've admitted that I'm running out of gift ideas for some
friends. :) I certainly wouldn't reject someone just b/c he isn't a good
gift buyer. I put greater value in how he treats me and others on a daily
and long–term basis.
personally, but I *PREFER* men with great personalities who are sentimental
over macho guys who are spendy/trendy/and who spoil me with lavish *material
items* and I've always been that way.
IMO, a bed and breakfast by the ocean is a lavish material item.
Most men who spoil with material items and are not INVENTIVE about ROMANCE
haven't made it past the third date with me. I find them terribly cardboard;
flat and boring; void of personality and the ability to be open and HONEST.
What I like in men is a far cry from what *most women* I know have merely
settled for, quite honestly.
Most women I know want money, purses, clothes, and a big swimming pool. I
prefer a man with depth who listens well, is a creative thinker, has a sense
of humor that knocks my socks off, prepares and thinks out special
anniversaries, dates, and holidays, writes actual *MESSAGES* inside of cards
instead of just a heart with a little arrow through it and his name, and
above all, who *understands me* over the material teenaged lavish gift
buying bullshit.
Frankly, I'm a bit confused about your insistence that it's mostly an
either/or situation. Granted, my idea of romantic isn't your idea of
romantic, but I don't see why a romantic, sensitive man can't buy you stuff
that you want. I also don't see why you can't want material things and a
soul mate. Now, given the choice of sugar daddy vs soul mate, I would ––
and did –– pick soul mate; however, I don't believe that it's a bad thing to
wish for a sugar daddy soul mate. ;)
It actually says TONS about who I am as a person. I prefer men for WHO they
are at the central core and not for WHAT THEY CAN BUY ME!!!!!! I don't use
them for purses and high heels, in other words. That's fake and that isn't
real love.
JN
I agree with the idea that real love is not about the sugar daddy, and I
don't think that anyone in this thread has insinuated otherwise.
ami
"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com>


"stephanie" <stepha...@keybeaute.com> wrote in message
news:Ix7Ld.2373$6i4.1...@trndny02...

cofarb wrote:
Cofarb, I so hope you weave this topic into a chapter of your economic
theory book. Or, at least, a couple of guest editorials in the fashion and
beauty press. Once you've published a small body of work, I believe a talk
show is in the bag. May I please be one of your first guests?
–sk
Absolutely! I think the "set" should be totally portable, too. We'll move
it from one great shopping venue to the next!
cofarb
"Claire in SF" <clairi...@aol.com>


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"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1107060116.291...@faramir...

The love of my life bought me an amazing spendy gift for Valentine's Day
this year and it came totally out of the blue. He saw something at a
store and called me at home to drive there and see if I wanted it. It
really threw me off guard because it was a total suprise. I've kept
this guy for more than 30 years because of who he is but I'd be a fool
to turn down a fabulous gift. Details won't be given until Valentine's
Day :)
Audrey
OT: There are often a few threads every January where people become
upset and attack others who have different opinions. It happened to me
last year and it is certainly true this year. I don't know if this is
part of post holiday let down, bad weather, or boredom. Sometimes we
just need to lighten up and not take remarks so personally.
It is so thoughtful of him to pay attention like that to what you'd like to
receive. He probably learned from you and the girls that if you let
something like that sit on the shelves it would be sold when he went back to
get it. :) I await the details on this fun Valentines story!
Claire
"RLK" <bookhound_...@hotmail.com_remove dashes_>
"Qintes" <rn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qHtKd.7$AY...@trndny05...
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need. He doesn't
understand a woman's needs.
Pam, this thread has been too funny in a painfully real way. I had just
mentioned this exact subject the other day on another thread. I had an
auction win of a tote and DH couldn't fathom why I would want another tote.
He said personally he would have bought DVDs with the money. This is coming
from a guy who has more DVDs than I have totes, clothes and shoes
COMBINED!!!
I have no problem with spouses curbing each other if they have financial
issues, or trying to save for a big item like car or house. What I cannot
stand and absolutely detest is a partner questioning the purchases of
another partner when both partners are pulling their own weight financially,
or even if it's only one partner who can more than afford a splurge here and
there for their spouse and self.
This happens to hit a bitter spot in me, since there was a time long ago
when I was hiding all my purchases (even magazines) on a regular basis just
so I didn't have to answer to the ex, not even realizing I was being
controlled to this degree. The funny thing, I was making as much if not more
money! I vowed never again to allow this kind of control... not only is it
unfair, it's totally unhealthy, a real esteem–killer. I worked very hard
from the time I was 15 and earned every cent of my salary. Nothing was ever
presented to me on a silver platter, so I absolutely know the value of
things and things hard earned.
One has to wonder why a partner needs to control to that extent ––– there
are issues lurking underneath more important than a purchase.
Qintes <rn...@yahoo.com>
Wow! I went out of town to visit the folks this weekend and was
suprised to see all the responses to my post today! Thank you all for
your sweet support and encouragement! I actually posted it for humor's
sake expecting 30 responses of "stop being such a spoiled brat!" But
most of the responses were funny, caring, and touching. You guys really
rock! All your responses will help me work through the pain (at least
until my satchel goes on sale!) :D
Pam
Qintes <rn...@yahoo.com>
cofarb wrote:
I really thought that this post was funny and my responses weren't meant
to cause hard feelings just for fun only ;)
Ditto. Or tritto...
cofarb
I have the "selfish bastard" post hanging on my fridge! Hahaha! Loved
it! Unfortunately, he hasn't started to beg me to buy more purses yet!
But now that you have me thinking of jewelry.....
:D
Pam
Charlie Perrin <c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net>
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:32:16 GMT, Qintes wrote:
I actually posted it for humor's sake expecting 30 responses
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<grin/duck>
"Claire in SF" <clairi...@aol.com>


"ami kio" <...@cant–take–anymore–spam.com> wrote in message
news:BE21F491.67D9E%...@cant–take–anymore–spam.com...

On 1/29/05 9:14 PM, in article 1107054767.213...@faramir, "The
Spangliator"
<spangliek...@netscape.net> wrote:
I don't see how "satisfying a person's wants even though it isn't
something
you value" isn't a reflection of love.
This is obviously a "one woman's haute couture is another woman's Old
Navy"
scenario. If I had been silently lusting for a year over a Hermes Birkin
and my SO surprised me with one for Valentine's, I'd be delighted;
however,
if he got me a purse that I found ugly, I must admit that I'd be pretty
annoyed. It's not the object that concerns me –– it would be the fact
that
he did (not) pay attention to what I was interested in.
I love that "haute coture – Old Navy" comment! And I have to add that I love
both Hermes and Old Navy and, in fact, combine Hermes with ON items. I guess
for me Hermes is my Old Navy and Old Navy is my Hermes, lol. ;)
Claire
If my SO gave me all the items you listed, I would dismiss those "ideal"
Valentine's gifts as trite clichéd cop–outs that rely on a stereotypical
notion of romance. That's not to say that they're horrible gifts –– they
just would be horrible gifts *for me* b/c they're not things that I value.
Those same gifts given to you wouldn't be trite and clichéd b/c they're
what
*you* want.
Gift giving is difficult for some. After 10+ years of birthdays and
Christmases, I've admitted that I'm running out of gift ideas for some
friends. :) I certainly wouldn't reject someone just b/c he isn't a good
gift buyer. I put greater value in how he treats me and others on a daily
and long–term basis.
IMO, a bed and breakfast by the ocean is a lavish material item.
Frankly, I'm a bit confused about your insistence that it's mostly an
either/or situation. Granted, my idea of romantic isn't your idea of
romantic, but I don't see why a romantic, sensitive man can't buy you
stuff
that you want. I also don't see why you can't want material things and a
soul mate. Now, given the choice of sugar daddy vs soul mate, I would ––
and did –– pick soul mate; however, I don't believe that it's a bad thing
to
wish for a sugar daddy soul mate. ;)
I agree with the idea that real love is not about the sugar daddy, and I
don't think that anyone in this thread has insinuated otherwise.
ami
"klb" <kl...@uakron.edu>
Yay, Dennis!!! Whatta man!
Sue––
––Hang Up and Drive––
www.bushgreenwatch.org


"Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle–Kabo...@canada.com> wrote in message
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In <BLednVCIPfkfAGfcRVn–...@adelphia.com> cofarb wrote:
No kidding. What's the guys purpose in life!
Begging? Heck, he should be showering the poor girl with gifts as an
apology...
––
Cheers
Dennis
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Caterine Paros <CaterinPa...@netStart.com>
Qintes wrote:
He said if I keep buying makeup and bags he wasn't going to let me talk
to you ladies anymore. Because I told him I need this Michael Kors
satchel or I'll die.
http://tinyurl.com/69bqh
But I just bought a Coach bag and he thinks that's all I need. He
doesn't understand a woman's needs.
Needs are not relevant to over spending.
Perhaps your husband is right.
Donate the money to tsunami victims not to fulfill some
silly fancies.
Qintes <rn...@yahoo.com>
Charlie Perrin wrote:
I actually posted it for humor's sake expecting 30 responses
of "stop being such a spoiled brat!"
We don't want your expectations to be denied, so:
Stop being such a spoiled brat!
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<grin/duck>
LOLOLOLOL!!!!! There we go. :)
Pam