On 1/29/05 9:14 PM, in article 1107054767.213...@faramir, "The Spangliator"
<spangliek...@netscape.net> wrote:
The holiday is about love, therefore the gift should be a reflection of the
person's love. I don't think a purse or satchel even fits that description.
I don't see how "satisfying a person's wants even though it isn't something
you value" isn't a reflection of love.
A purse is what you get somebody for Christmas or their birthday. A trip to
a bed and breakfast by the ocean is what you get them for Valentine's day.
I would think that I had *THE* most unromantic, *thoughtless*,
materialistic, rush and shop at the last minute, airheaded boob for a
boyfriend in the world if I got purse for Valentine's day, but that's just
my opinion and I've always received thoroughly *sentimental* gifts and
little love poems, weekends at hotels with champagne and candles, etc.
The day is about ROMANCE and being loved and *in love*, not about a gift as
simple, boring, mundane, high schoolish and thoughtless as a PURSE.
This is obviously a "one woman's haute couture is another woman's Old Navy"
scenario. If I had been silently lusting for a year over a Hermes Birkin
and my SO surprised me with one for Valentine's, I'd be delighted; however,
if he got me a purse that I found ugly, I must admit that I'd be pretty
annoyed. It's not the object that concerns me it would be the fact that
he did (not) pay attention to what I was interested in.
If my SO gave me all the items you listed, I would dismiss those "ideal"
Valentine's gifts as trite clichéd copouts that rely on a stereotypical
notion of romance. That's not to say that they're horrible gifts they
just would be horrible gifts *for me* b/c they're not things that I value.
Those same gifts given to you wouldn't be trite and clichéd b/c they're what
*you* want.
Seriously, if a guy can't think up a good Valentine's Day gift it says an
enormous amount to me about whether or not he's going to be lame in the sack
and closed off and introverted regarding his emotions if I marry him,
Gift giving is difficult for some. After 10+ years of birthdays and
Christmases, I've admitted that I'm running out of gift ideas for some
friends. :) I certainly wouldn't reject someone just b/c he isn't a good
gift buyer. I put greater value in how he treats me and others on a daily
and longterm basis.
personally, but I *PREFER* men with great personalities who are sentimental
over macho guys who are spendy/trendy/and who spoil me with lavish *material
items* and I've always been that way.
IMO, a bed and breakfast by the ocean is a lavish material item.
Most men who spoil with material items and are not INVENTIVE about ROMANCE
haven't made it past the third date with me. I find them terribly cardboard;
flat and boring; void of personality and the ability to be open and HONEST.
What I like in men is a far cry from what *most women* I know have merely
settled for, quite honestly.
Most women I know want money, purses, clothes, and a big swimming pool. I
prefer a man with depth who listens well, is a creative thinker, has a sense
of humor that knocks my socks off, prepares and thinks out special
anniversaries, dates, and holidays, writes actual *MESSAGES* inside of cards
instead of just a heart with a little arrow through it and his name, and
above all, who *understands me* over the material teenaged lavish gift
buying bullshit.
Frankly, I'm a bit confused about your insistence that it's mostly an
either/or situation. Granted, my idea of romantic isn't your idea of
romantic, but I don't see why a romantic, sensitive man can't buy you stuff
that you want. I also don't see why you can't want material things and a
soul mate. Now, given the choice of sugar daddy vs soul mate, I would
and did pick soul mate; however, I don't believe that it's a bad thing to
wish for a sugar daddy soul mate. ;)
It actually says TONS about who I am as a person. I prefer men for WHO they
are at the central core and not for WHAT THEY CAN BUY ME!!!!!! I don't use
them for purses and high heels, in other words. That's fake and that isn't
real love.
JN
I agree with the idea that real love is not about the sugar daddy, and I
don't think that anyone in this thread has insinuated otherwise.
ami