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Hair Problem – please help

"soozq" <skris...@columbus.rr.com>
Ok, here's the thing. I know ya'll can't see me, so you can't fully help
me, or give me a definitive answer, but any advice would be fantastic.
I dyed my hair last night. Here's where the problem comes in. It doesn't
look awful (I'm naturally dark blond, but I had it professionally done and
there was dark blond, white blond, and red), but I hate it. I dyed it
"lightest ash blond", and my hair is really blond, but I think it needs some
golden streaks or something. and the red, well, the red turned a light
tangerine color. not horribly noticeable, and not atrocious, but definitely
orange.
is there anything i can do to fix it? i am poor and can't afford to go
have a salon charge me obscene amounts to fix something that isn't all that
bad to begin with. I know what ya'll are thinking, if you try anything it
will get worse and then you will have something horrible. i was thinking of
possibly just dying it a brown to match my eyebrows a bit. please help!
thanks in advance.
Susan in Ohio's daughter,
Kate
Richard Hunter <returntosen...@ddressunknown.com>
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:10:51 GMT, "soozq"
<skris...@columbus.rr.com> coughed and sputtered, and managed to
choke out these words:
i was thinking of
possibly just dying it a brown to match my eyebrows a bit. please help!
thanks in advance.
i know this isn't what you want to hear – but you should just
bite the bullet and go to a salon to have it done. if you dye
your hair brown now, it won't be all the same colour brown after
a week. you'll possibly have tonal differences due to the other
colours you have in your hair. i've never seen it work out for
someone who did their hair at home when trying to correct
something that was done in a salon. another POV: if you let
someone else do it and you hate it, you can be mad at them
(instead of yourself), and complain until you get free services.
:)
david
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"Miss Livvy" <Xeveryidiwantistak...@yahoo.com>
I wouldn't mess around with this anymore on my own or you could end up even
worse. I think you should go to a salon to get it fixed.


"soozq" <skris...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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Ok, here's the thing. I know ya'll can't see me, so you can't fully help
me, or give me a definitive answer, but any advice would be fantastic.
I dyed my hair last night. Here's where the problem comes in. It doesn't
look awful (I'm naturally dark blond, but I had it professionally done and
there was dark blond, white blond, and red), but I hate it. I dyed it
"lightest ash blond", and my hair is really blond, but I think it needs
some
golden streaks or something. and the red, well, the red turned a light
tangerine color. not horribly noticeable, and not atrocious, but
definitely
orange.
is there anything i can do to fix it? i am poor and can't afford to go
have a salon charge me obscene amounts to fix something that isn't all
that
bad to begin with. I know what ya'll are thinking, if you try anything it
will get worse and then you will have something horrible. i was thinking
of
possibly just dying it a brown to match my eyebrows a bit. please help!
thanks in advance.
Susan in Ohio's daughter,
Kate
"shinypenny" <shinypenny0...@yahoo.com>
soozq wrote:
Ok, here's the thing. I know ya'll can't see me, so you can't fully
help
me, or give me a definitive answer, but any advice would be
fantastic.
I dyed my hair last night. Here's where the problem comes in. It
doesn't
look awful (I'm naturally dark blond, but I had it professionally
done and
there was dark blond, white blond, and red), but I hate it. I dyed
it
"lightest ash blond", and my hair is really blond, but I think it
needs some
golden streaks or something. and the red, well, the red turned a
light
tangerine color. not horribly noticeable, and not atrocious, but
definitely
orange.
is there anything i can do to fix it? i am poor and can't afford to
go
have a salon charge me obscene amounts to fix something that isn't
all that
bad to begin with. I know what ya'll are thinking, if you try
anything it
will get worse and then you will have something horrible. i was
thinking of
possibly just dying it a brown to match my eyebrows a bit. please
help!
thanks in advance.
I'd definetly get yourself to a professional. In the meantime, pick up
a bottle of that purple shampoo. It'll tone down the orange (I recently
had the same problem – too much brassiness). After a few uses, you may
like your hair okay enough to live with it.
Also, just waiting it out seems to help. Sounds like you went
dramatically lighter. It may be a matter of waiting to get your eye
used to it. I'd give it at least 4 or 5 days before passing judgement.
I'm also naturally dark blonde. I've finally learned my best color is
neither too warm or too cool. Warm ends up too brassy, and cool washes
me out. I now aim for "neutral." I found a great colorist who used
Goldwell products, which aren't as harsh and leave my hair in better
condition. I took her advice, used the purple shampoo for four weeks to
give my hair a much–needed rest, then put myself into her hands. The
first visit was a five–hour rescue mission but I was very happy with
the results. I've been back three times now and the condition of my
hair is better than it has been in years.
Incidentally, I found this colorist at an inexpensive salon. I walked
in one day looking for the purple shampoo, and she took one look at my
disastrous hair job and said, "I can fix that," and then proceeded to
tell me how. She costs 1/3 of what I had been paying at my other place,
and also does a great job with the cut, too. She's also great at
recommending hair products that are not all that expensive but work
just as good as the expensive stuff.
So don't think you necessarily have to go to the best salon in town.
I'd shop around on that – take your head into various salons and ask
for advice. When you find someone you feel comfortable with, book the
appt.
jen
Richard Hunter <returntosen...@ddressunknown.com>
On 22 Jan 2005 05:30:01 –0800, "shinypenny"
<shinypenny0...@yahoo.com> coughed and sputtered, and managed to
choke out these words:
In the meantime, pick up
a bottle of that purple shampoo.
Sally Beauty Supply carries one called Shimmering Lights. Matrix
also makes a purple shampoo, but i can't remember what it's
called.
david
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Ruzinthra the Ruki <ruzint...@ruki.com>
On 27 Jan 2005 17:26:27 GMT, twenty2...@aol.com (Twenty2222)
coughed and sputtered, and managed to choke out these words:
I've also chopped my hair to only an inch long but I suppose you wouldn't like
that solution either.
that's not a solution to a highlighting problem.
twenty2...@aol.com (Twenty2222)
the red turned a light
tangerine color. not horribly noticeable, and not atrocious, but definitely
orange.
is there anything i can do to fix it? i am poor and can't afford to go
have a salon charge me obscene amounts to fix something that isn't all that
bad to begin with.
I totally know where you're coming from. If you can stand it, dye it brown,
with some cheap $10 drugstore product. It's winter anyway, you don't need to be
a blond until summer. The brown will stick to everything and at least even it
out.
I am someone who is terribly paranoid that my hair looks orange, and I will
avoid it at all (drugstore, i.e. $10 or less) costs.
20–2222
"doomella" <doome...@hotmail.com>


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the red turned a light
tangerine color. not horribly noticeable, and not atrocious, but
definitely
orange.
is there anything i can do to fix it? i am poor and can't afford to go
have a salon charge me obscene amounts to fix something that isn't all
that
bad to begin with.
I totally know where you're coming from. If you can stand it, dye it
brown,
with some cheap $10 drugstore product. It's winter anyway, you don't need
to be
a blond until summer. The brown will stick to everything and at least even
it
out.
Yikes! Careful with those cheap drugstore products –– and going from orange
to brown is pretty drastic and, even if you use a temporary color. may never
really wash out. It's tough to go lighter, easier to go darker. I'd
seriously recommend a color–depositing shampoo or conditioner like Artec,
which has a super–high pigment load and can make quite a drastic difference.
Red is notorious for fading faster than any other color (after red, there's
only one place to go––orange!). A color–depositing shampoo or conditioner
like Artec (which has several shades for reds alone) will revive your color,
deepen it, etc..... also much less damaging than dying already–dyed hair,
which an have unpredictable results.
Ruzinthra the Ruki <ruzint...@ruki.com>
On 27 Jan 2005 03:20:23 GMT, twenty2...@aol.com (Twenty2222)
coughed and sputtered, and managed to choke out these words:
The brown will stick to everything and at least even it
out.
do you know what you're talking about? i don't think you do.
brown is a temporary fix. after a few washes, it won't be brown
anymore. it will be various shades of brown, and her highlights
will most likely show up again.
david
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twenty2...@aol.com (Twenty2222)
The brown will stick to everything and at least even it
out.
do you know what you're talking about? i don't think you do.
oh well. that's what I do/have done. if you don't think it would work you are
welcome to say so.
I've also chopped my hair to only an inch long but I suppose you wouldn't like
that solution either.
20–2222
"doomella" <doome...@hotmail.com>


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On 27 Jan 2005 17:26:27 GMT, twenty2...@aol.com (Twenty2222)
coughed and sputtered, and managed to choke out these words:
that's not a solution to a highlighting problem.
Sure it is –– much as a foot amputation is a solution to a botched pedicure.
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


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On 27 Jan 2005 03:20:23 GMT, twenty2...@aol.com (Twenty2222)
coughed and sputtered, and managed to choke out these words:
do you know what you're talking about? i don't think you do.
brown is a temporary fix. after a few washes, it won't be brown
anymore. it will be various shades of brown, and her highlights
will most likely show up again.
david
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That's the spirit!!! You tell her, Hair Guy!!!
;o)
JN
Ruzinthra the Ruki <ruzint...@ruki.com>
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:29:35 –0800, "The Spangliator"
<spangliek...@netscape.net> coughed and sputtered, and managed to
choke out these words:


"Ruzinthra the Ruki" <ruzint...@ruki.com> wrote in message
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That's the spirit!!! You tell her, Hair Guy!!!
;o)
i hate it when people who are clueless start disseminating
information, especially when they don't have the training
necessary to know what they're talking about.
don't get me wrong, i've done it before, too. i've learned to
try to get information from reputable sources before shooting
something out of my ass. :)
david
––
"Mr. Lancaster" as you call him is soooo full
of donkey doo that it isn't funny. Seeking
his advice is akin to saying "lie to me".
–Walter, AMOE, 01/26/2005
"Susan in LA" <DELETETHISsusan528DELETET...@hotmail.com>


"Twenty2222" <twenty2...@aol.com> wrote in message
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the red turned a light
tangerine color. not horribly noticeable, and not atrocious, but
definitely
orange.
is there anything i can do to fix it? i am poor and can't afford to go
have a salon charge me obscene amounts to fix something that isn't all
that
bad to begin with.
I totally know where you're coming from. If you can stand it, dye it
brown,
with some cheap $10 drugstore product. It's winter anyway, you don't need
to be
a blond until summer. The brown will stick to everything and at least even
it
out.
I am someone who is terribly paranoid that my hair looks orange, and I
will
avoid it at all (drugstore, i.e. $10 or less) costs.
One time I paid cash money dollars to have my blond highlighted hair
"cellophaned" a light tangerine color. It was fine, actually quite pretty,
except that it brought out the ruddiness in my skin. Actual orange it better
than brassiness, IMO. The first thing I would do if I were you is wait a few
washes and see if it fades.
Susan
"The Spangliator" <spangliek...@netscape.net>


"Ruzinthra the Ruki" <ruzint...@ruki.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:29:35 –0800, "The Spangliator"
<spangliek...@netscape.net> coughed and sputtered, and managed to
choke out these words:
i hate it when people who are clueless start disseminating
information, especially when they don't have the training
necessary to know what they're talking about.
don't get me wrong, i've done it before, too. i've learned to
try to get information from reputable sources before shooting
something out of my ass. :)
david
––
"Mr. Lancaster" as you call him is soooo full
of donkey doo that it isn't funny. Seeking
his advice is akin to saying "lie to me".
–Walter, AMOE, 01/26/2005
I thought your post was great. I laughed pretty hard at your little
outburst. I must say you are among the most informed hair issues posters
here, too.
JN
Ruzinthra the Ruki <ruzint...@ruki.com>
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:54:22 –0800, "The Spangliator"
<spangliek...@netscape.net> coughed and sputtered, and managed to
choke out these words:
I thought your post was great. I laughed pretty hard at your little
outburst. I must say you are among the most informed hair issues posters
here, too.
i try to keep up with what's going on. in my business, there's
always the next big new thing.
david
––
"Mr. Lancaster" as you call him is soooo full
of donkey doo that it isn't funny. Seeking
his advice is akin to saying "lie to me".
–Walter, AMOE, 01/26/2005
"Claire in SF" <clairi...@aol.com>


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the red turned a light
tangerine color. not horribly noticeable, and not atrocious, but
definitely
orange.
is there anything i can do to fix it? i am poor and can't afford to go
have a salon charge me obscene amounts to fix something that isn't all
that
bad to begin with.
One time I paid cash money dollars to have my blond highlighted hair
"cellophaned" a light tangerine color. It was fine, actually quite pretty,
except that it brought out the ruddiness in my skin. Actual orange it
better
than brassiness, IMO. The first thing I would do if I were you is wait a
few
washes and see if it fades.
Susan
I'm not sure I know what "brassiness" looks like in hair. Honestly. Can
someone provide an example as in a photo?
Claire
Stacy Ferguson <stac...@stacyef.net>
In article <367aqfF4t0il...@individual.net>,
"Claire in SF" <clairi...@aol.com> wrote:
I'm not sure I know what "brassiness" looks like in hair. Honestly. Can
someone provide an example as in a photo?
Claire
I have no idea what "brassy" hair colors are either! I just know that I
don't see that problem mentioned in anyone with hair as dark as mine.
Stacy
"jjjjjuliep" <jjjjju...@aol.com>
Stacy Ferguson wrote:
In article <367aqfF4t0il...@individual.net>,
"Claire in SF" <clairi...@aol.com> wrote:
I have no idea what "brassy" hair colors are either! I just know that
I
don't see that problem mentioned in anyone with hair as dark as mine.
"brassy" = bad red color, usually seen on brunettes who try to go
blonde in just one step (w/o the bleaching step their hair color can
only lift so far, generally an unflattering shade of red)