Home / alt.fashion / Tuesday, January 11, 2005
<airam1002...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105461320.362572.250...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
recalcitrant, nodular acne. I wouldn't risk a second course of accutane on
whiteheads, etc., where there is some possibilitity that they will respond
to topical and/or antibiotic treatment.
The drug has been used for only just a little over 20 years now and, the
people who took it are only now just reaching the "aging" years (assuming
most of the people who took it at the time were jn their teens and twenties
now, they are just hitting 40–45 today). I'm not sure you can find
documented evidence that it will cause your skin to age terribly. However,
Accutane more or less dries your body from the inside out. Thus the side
effects of dry eyes and lips, and the arthritis complaints. To me it is
logical that it could cause early wrinkles and/or effect collagen. I
believe we will begin to see the real long–term effects of accutane as the
first patients reach their senior years.
People have had new and more intense side effects when going onto a second
course of the drug. I just read a post about someone who got serious
disabling arthritis symtoms only days after beginning the drug. The symptoms
subsided somewhat after going of the drug but they never went away. I am
personally familair with people who have stories like this, too. Then
there's the risk of depression and suicide.
It is a risk. The only person who can decide if the risk is worth it is you.
Claire
Anyone use accutane over 40?
Lisa Drake <ldr...@pobox.com>
1/11/2005 12:57:12 AM
I used it about 5 years ago with AWESOME results lasting up until about
a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
"dsnyanne" <dsnya...@cox.net>
1/10/2005 5:01:08 PM
I've been using retin–a for my acne and it is working. I also take
antibiotics when I start to break out. With me it is causes by hormones.
The retin–a is also good for wrinkles.
"Lisa Drake" <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:ldrake–73C7A2.19571210012...@news1.east.earthlink.net...
antibiotics when I start to break out. With me it is causes by hormones.
The retin–a is also good for wrinkles.
"Lisa Drake" <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:ldrake–73C7A2.19571210012...@news1.east.earthlink.net...
I used it about 5 years ago with AWESOME results lasting up until about
a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
"melizabeth" <myfakeaddr...@nospam.com>
1/11/2005 8:50:08 AM
..
"Lisa Drake" <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:ldrake–73C7A2.19571210012...@news1.east.earthlink.net...
One of my coworkers in his 50s was using Accutane.
"Lisa Drake" <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:ldrake–73C7A2.19571210012...@news1.east.earthlink.net...
CarolC...@aol.com
1/11/2005 6:08:41 AM
I used it about 5 years ago with AWESOME results lasting up until about
a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
If you received the prescription for Accutane 5 years ago, I would go
back to the derm. There are newer drugs out there that don't have the
extreme side effects of Accutane such as Tretinoin and Tazarotene
(brand name: Tazorac, a gel). Perhaps one of these would work for
you.
Carol
a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
If you received the prescription for Accutane 5 years ago, I would go
back to the derm. There are newer drugs out there that don't have the
extreme side effects of Accutane such as Tretinoin and Tazarotene
(brand name: Tazorac, a gel). Perhaps one of these would work for
you.
Carol
Charlie Perrin <c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net>
1/11/2005 2:33:49 PM
On 11 Jan 2005 06:08:41 –0800, CarolC...@aol.com wrote:
it's back to the derm unless the OP uses one of the many "helpful" Web
sites that fill my inbox.
If you received the prescription for Accutane 5 years ago,
I would go back to the derm.
Prescriptions run for a maximum of one year in the first place, so I would go back to the derm.
it's back to the derm unless the OP uses one of the many "helpful" Web
sites that fill my inbox.
airam1002...@yahoo.com
1/11/2005 8:35:20 AM
Lisa Drake wrote:
side–effects, including hair loss?
Of course hair loss is not a life–threatening side effect but other
Accutane side effects are far more serious:
http://tinyurl.com/4xw8t
If I was in your shoes I would do some research before plunging into
it.
––Maria
I used it about 5 years ago with AWESOME results lasting up until
about
a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come
back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if
taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back
on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years
is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
Isn't accutane the drug that has been shown to cause some nasty side–effects, including hair loss?
Of course hair loss is not a life–threatening side effect but other
Accutane side effects are far more serious:
http://tinyurl.com/4xw8t
If I was in your shoes I would do some research before plunging into
it.
––Maria
"Claire in SF" <clairi...@aol.com>
1/11/2005 9:58:22 AM
<airam1002...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105461320.362572.250...@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Lisa Drake wrote:
about
back
taking
on
is
Isn't accutane the drug that has been shown to cause some nasty
side–effects, including hair loss?
Of course hair loss is not a life–threatening side effect but other
Accutane side effects are far more serious:
http://tinyurl.com/4xw8t
If I was in your shoes I would do some research before plunging into
it.
––Maria
It is a SERIOUS drug and you should really only use it to treat severe, about
back
taking
on
is
Isn't accutane the drug that has been shown to cause some nasty
side–effects, including hair loss?
Of course hair loss is not a life–threatening side effect but other
Accutane side effects are far more serious:
http://tinyurl.com/4xw8t
If I was in your shoes I would do some research before plunging into
it.
––Maria
recalcitrant, nodular acne. I wouldn't risk a second course of accutane on
whiteheads, etc., where there is some possibilitity that they will respond
to topical and/or antibiotic treatment.
The drug has been used for only just a little over 20 years now and, the
people who took it are only now just reaching the "aging" years (assuming
most of the people who took it at the time were jn their teens and twenties
now, they are just hitting 40–45 today). I'm not sure you can find
documented evidence that it will cause your skin to age terribly. However,
Accutane more or less dries your body from the inside out. Thus the side
effects of dry eyes and lips, and the arthritis complaints. To me it is
logical that it could cause early wrinkles and/or effect collagen. I
believe we will begin to see the real long–term effects of accutane as the
first patients reach their senior years.
People have had new and more intense side effects when going onto a second
course of the drug. I just read a post about someone who got serious
disabling arthritis symtoms only days after beginning the drug. The symptoms
subsided somewhat after going of the drug but they never went away. I am
personally familair with people who have stories like this, too. Then
there's the risk of depression and suicide.
It is a risk. The only person who can decide if the risk is worth it is you.
Claire
Lisa Drake <ldr...@pobox.com>
1/12/2005 1:07:08 AM
In article <1105452521.847212.274...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
CarolC...@aol.com wrote:
skin is usually not really sensitive.) Anyway it's a cream so it won't
work systematically like an oral medication. I don't want to treat the
acne after it erupts; I want it to never show up in the first place.
I want this stuff GONE. Enough is enough.
CarolC...@aol.com wrote:
I used it about 5 years ago with AWESOME results lasting up until about
a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
If you received the prescription for Accutane 5 years ago, I would go
back to the derm. There are newer drugs out there that don't have the
extreme side effects of Accutane such as Tretinoin and Tazarotene
(brand name: Tazorac, a gel). Perhaps one of these would work for
you.
Carol
Used Tazorac; it just "burned" my skin like a severe sunburn. (And my a year ago but unfortunately the acne has recently decided to come back
with a vengeance. I'm almost 42 now, though, so I'm wondering if taking
accutane is going to age my skin terribly. I really want to go back on
it because nothing else seems to work for me and, darn it, 30 years is
just too long to have to put up with this junk!!!
If you received the prescription for Accutane 5 years ago, I would go
back to the derm. There are newer drugs out there that don't have the
extreme side effects of Accutane such as Tretinoin and Tazarotene
(brand name: Tazorac, a gel). Perhaps one of these would work for
you.
Carol
skin is usually not really sensitive.) Anyway it's a cream so it won't
work systematically like an oral medication. I don't want to treat the
acne after it erupts; I want it to never show up in the first place.
I want this stuff GONE. Enough is enough.
dcroo76...@aol.com (DCroo76626)
1/13/2005 2:02:28 AM
I'm 48 and have been using it for a couple of years to control the excessive
oiliness of my skin. The dosage my derm has me on is very low and the side
effects have been nonexistant. Like other posters have noted, it's gotten much
harder to get, but for me anyway the results are worth it.
lynne
oiliness of my skin. The dosage my derm has me on is very low and the side
effects have been nonexistant. Like other posters have noted, it's gotten much
harder to get, but for me anyway the results are worth it.
lynne
Lisa Drake <ldr...@pobox.com>
1/12/2005 1:09:11 AM
In article <EzFEd.19265$yW5.2...@fed1read02>,
"dsnyanne" <dsnya...@cox.net> wrote:
me, so that's why I went on accutane in the first place. I wasn't
really looking for alternative treatments, just advice from "older"
people who had done a second treatment with accutane.
"dsnyanne" <dsnya...@cox.net> wrote:
I've been using retin–a for my acne and it is working. I also take
antibiotics when I start to break out. With me it is causes by hormones.
The retin–a is also good for wrinkles.
"Lisa Drake" <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:ldrake–73C7A2.19571210012...@news1.east.earthlink.net...
I've used both oral antibiotics and Retin–A, neither of which work for antibiotics when I start to break out. With me it is causes by hormones.
The retin–a is also good for wrinkles.
"Lisa Drake" <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:ldrake–73C7A2.19571210012...@news1.east.earthlink.net...
me, so that's why I went on accutane in the first place. I wasn't
really looking for alternative treatments, just advice from "older"
people who had done a second treatment with accutane.
Lisa Drake <ldr...@pobox.com>
1/12/2005 1:22:05 AM
In article <ldrake–0CE366.20070811012...@news1.east.earthlink.net>,
Lisa Drake <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote:
Lisa Drake <ldr...@pobox.com> wrote:
In article <1105452521.847212.274...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
CarolC...@aol.com wrote:
Used Tazorac; it just "burned" my skin like a severe sunburn. (And my
skin is usually not really sensitive.) Anyway it's a cream so it won't
work systematically like an oral medication. I don't want to treat the
acne after it erupts; I want it to never show up in the first place.
I want this stuff GONE. Enough is enough.
Sorry I think I meant "systemically" not "systematically". CarolC...@aol.com wrote:
Used Tazorac; it just "burned" my skin like a severe sunburn. (And my
skin is usually not really sensitive.) Anyway it's a cream so it won't
work systematically like an oral medication. I don't want to treat the
acne after it erupts; I want it to never show up in the first place.
I want this stuff GONE. Enough is enough.
Charlie Perrin <c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net>
1/12/2005 2:54:53 AM
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:22:05 GMT, Lisa Drake wrote:
skin is usually not really sensitive.) Anyway it's a cream so it won't
work systematically like an oral medication. I don't want to treat the
acne after it erupts; I want it to never show up in the first place.
FWIW, the hoops you have to jump through (post–2002) to get an
Accutane Rx filled are pretty arduous.
Among other thngs, the stuff has a three page "Dreaded Black Box
Warning" (dreaded by the manufacturer because it makes the doctor
think REALLY hard) and eight pages of patient informed consent. If you
want to read the gory details:
http://www.rocheusa.com/products/accutane/pi.pdf
Lisa Drake wrote:
Used Tazorac; it just "burned" my skin like a severe sunburn. (And my skin is usually not really sensitive.) Anyway it's a cream so it won't
work systematically like an oral medication. I don't want to treat the
acne after it erupts; I want it to never show up in the first place.
Sorry I think I meant "systemically" not "systematically".
You did mean "systemically" –– that's the right word. FWIW, the hoops you have to jump through (post–2002) to get an
Accutane Rx filled are pretty arduous.
Among other thngs, the stuff has a three page "Dreaded Black Box
Warning" (dreaded by the manufacturer because it makes the doctor
think REALLY hard) and eight pages of patient informed consent. If you
want to read the gory details:
http://www.rocheusa.com/products/accutane/pi.pdf
BoB <bioc...@biochemistryofbeauty.com>
1/19/2005 1:02:59 AM
Claire in SF wrote:
Dermatol Surg. 2000 Jul;26(7):649–52.
Oral isotretinoin as part of the treatment of cutaneous aging.
Hernandez–Perez E, Khawaja HA, Alvarez TY.
Center for Dermatology and Cosmetic Surgery, San Salvador, El
Salvador. enri...@ejje.com
BACKGROUND: A number of drugs have been used to prevent aging changes.
However, studies of oral isotretinoin, the commonly used acne drug, as
an antiaging drug are lacking.
OBJECTIVE: To determine improvement in cutaneous aging utilizing oral
isotretinoin combined with different procedures of facial rejuvenation.
METHODS: Sixty patients ranging in age from 35 to 65 years, in whom
additional modalities of rejuvenation were also used, were randomly
assigned to receive treatment with oral isotretinoin (10–20 mg three
times a week for 2 months, group A). Their results were compared with 60
patients who had undergone the same surgical procedures but with no oral
isotretinoin (group B).
RESULTS: All patients treated with oral isotretinoin noted improvement
in wrinkles, thickness and color of the skin, size of pores, skin
elasticity, tone, and reduction in pigmented lesions and mottled
hyperpigmentation. A statistically significant difference was found in
the improvement of group A (Wilcoxon test <0.01). Using minimal amounts
of this drug, the side effects were practically negligible.
CONCLUSION: Utilizing various procedures with oral isotretinoin allowed
us to improve the effects of cutaneous aging. Our results using
isotretinoin in these cases have been satisfactory. We believe that this
is one of the first reports of the use of oral isotretinoin in intrinsic
and photoaged skin.
Publication Types:
* Clinical Trial
* Randomized Controlled Trial
PMID: 10886272 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
I'm not sure you can find
documented evidence that it will cause your skin to age terribly.
The opposite is more likely to be true: documented evidence that it will cause your skin to age terribly.
Dermatol Surg. 2000 Jul;26(7):649–52.
Oral isotretinoin as part of the treatment of cutaneous aging.
Hernandez–Perez E, Khawaja HA, Alvarez TY.
Center for Dermatology and Cosmetic Surgery, San Salvador, El
Salvador. enri...@ejje.com
BACKGROUND: A number of drugs have been used to prevent aging changes.
However, studies of oral isotretinoin, the commonly used acne drug, as
an antiaging drug are lacking.
OBJECTIVE: To determine improvement in cutaneous aging utilizing oral
isotretinoin combined with different procedures of facial rejuvenation.
METHODS: Sixty patients ranging in age from 35 to 65 years, in whom
additional modalities of rejuvenation were also used, were randomly
assigned to receive treatment with oral isotretinoin (10–20 mg three
times a week for 2 months, group A). Their results were compared with 60
patients who had undergone the same surgical procedures but with no oral
isotretinoin (group B).
RESULTS: All patients treated with oral isotretinoin noted improvement
in wrinkles, thickness and color of the skin, size of pores, skin
elasticity, tone, and reduction in pigmented lesions and mottled
hyperpigmentation. A statistically significant difference was found in
the improvement of group A (Wilcoxon test <0.01). Using minimal amounts
of this drug, the side effects were practically negligible.
CONCLUSION: Utilizing various procedures with oral isotretinoin allowed
us to improve the effects of cutaneous aging. Our results using
isotretinoin in these cases have been satisfactory. We believe that this
is one of the first reports of the use of oral isotretinoin in intrinsic
and photoaged skin.
Publication Types:
* Clinical Trial
* Randomized Controlled Trial
PMID: 10886272 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
Lisa Drake <ldr...@pobox.com>
1/19/2005 2:04:02 AM
Thanks! My appointment is next week and I am going to push hard for my
accutane Rx.
In article <7liHd.327$tK3.97...@newshog.newsread.com>,
BoB <bioc...@biochemistryofbeauty.com> wrote:
accutane Rx.
In article <7liHd.327$tK3.97...@newshog.newsread.com>,
BoB <bioc...@biochemistryofbeauty.com> wrote:
Claire in SF wrote:
The opposite is more likely to be true:
Dermatol Surg. 2000 Jul;26(7):649–52.
Oral isotretinoin as part of the treatment of cutaneous aging.
Hernandez–Perez E, Khawaja HA, Alvarez TY.
Center for Dermatology and Cosmetic Surgery, San Salvador, El
Salvador. enri...@ejje.com
BACKGROUND: A number of drugs have been used to prevent aging changes.
However, studies of oral isotretinoin, the commonly used acne drug, as
an antiaging drug are lacking.
OBJECTIVE: To determine improvement in cutaneous aging utilizing oral
isotretinoin combined with different procedures of facial rejuvenation.
METHODS: Sixty patients ranging in age from 35 to 65 years, in whom
additional modalities of rejuvenation were also used, were randomly
assigned to receive treatment with oral isotretinoin (10–20 mg three
times a week for 2 months, group A). Their results were compared with 60
patients who had undergone the same surgical procedures but with no oral
isotretinoin (group B).
RESULTS: All patients treated with oral isotretinoin noted improvement
in wrinkles, thickness and color of the skin, size of pores, skin
elasticity, tone, and reduction in pigmented lesions and mottled
hyperpigmentation. A statistically significant difference was found in
the improvement of group A (Wilcoxon test <0.01). Using minimal amounts
of this drug, the side effects were practically negligible.
CONCLUSION: Utilizing various procedures with oral isotretinoin allowed
us to improve the effects of cutaneous aging. Our results using
isotretinoin in these cases have been satisfactory. We believe that this
is one of the first reports of the use of oral isotretinoin in intrinsic
and photoaged skin.
Publication Types:
* Clinical Trial
* Randomized Controlled Trial
PMID: 10886272 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
The opposite is more likely to be true:
Dermatol Surg. 2000 Jul;26(7):649–52.
Oral isotretinoin as part of the treatment of cutaneous aging.
Hernandez–Perez E, Khawaja HA, Alvarez TY.
Center for Dermatology and Cosmetic Surgery, San Salvador, El
Salvador. enri...@ejje.com
BACKGROUND: A number of drugs have been used to prevent aging changes.
However, studies of oral isotretinoin, the commonly used acne drug, as
an antiaging drug are lacking.
OBJECTIVE: To determine improvement in cutaneous aging utilizing oral
isotretinoin combined with different procedures of facial rejuvenation.
METHODS: Sixty patients ranging in age from 35 to 65 years, in whom
additional modalities of rejuvenation were also used, were randomly
assigned to receive treatment with oral isotretinoin (10–20 mg three
times a week for 2 months, group A). Their results were compared with 60
patients who had undergone the same surgical procedures but with no oral
isotretinoin (group B).
RESULTS: All patients treated with oral isotretinoin noted improvement
in wrinkles, thickness and color of the skin, size of pores, skin
elasticity, tone, and reduction in pigmented lesions and mottled
hyperpigmentation. A statistically significant difference was found in
the improvement of group A (Wilcoxon test <0.01). Using minimal amounts
of this drug, the side effects were practically negligible.
CONCLUSION: Utilizing various procedures with oral isotretinoin allowed
us to improve the effects of cutaneous aging. Our results using
isotretinoin in these cases have been satisfactory. We believe that this
is one of the first reports of the use of oral isotretinoin in intrinsic
and photoaged skin.
Publication Types:
* Clinical Trial
* Randomized Controlled Trial
PMID: 10886272 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
legaleaglev...@aol.com (Legal eagleview)
1/21/2005 2:50:46 AM
I know of a young woman who lost her hair from accutane..............beware!!
Charlie Perrin <c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net>
1/21/2005 3:20:01 AM
On 21 Jan 2005 02:50:46 GMT, Legal eagleview wrote:
alopecia (which in some cases persists)
"hair abnormalities" [whatever that is]
I know of a young woman who lost her hair
from accutane..............beware!!
The side–effects mention: from accutane..............beware!!
alopecia (which in some cases persists)
"hair abnormalities" [whatever that is]