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OT – Help Catching some Feral Cats

hateith...@aol.com (Hateithere)
I need a little help. I'm feeding 2 feral cats right now – they are both
gorgeous. One appears to be a full blooded persian, the other is an orange and
white tabby. We've purchased a dog house for them and also a huge heated dog
bed to help get them through the cold winter.
I know that someone here, not too long ago, was able to catch a feral cat, and
I need to catch these so I can have them spayed/neutered. Then I'll release
them back out into the wild (they've lived outside as a little colony forever;
there's no way I'm going to have them cooped up in a vet's cage for the rest of
their lives or put to sleep).
So how do you go about catching them? They won't come near the house if anyone
is outside. When I put their food and water out I shake the dry food really
loud and they know that's the signal to come eat.
As a side note, I adopted another outside/half–feral cat last winter, but she
was more tame than these two and has turned into a real lovey dovey inside cat.
I don't think there's any way to tame these two new cats. I was actually able
to coax Missy into the house with food and water during the winter, but can't
do that with these two.
Any help or direction is appreciated. I've read some pamplets about what I
should do, but it just says "trap them and have them spayed/neutered" – it
doesn't say HOW to trap them!
Dana in DE
gwehr...@bellsouth.net
lots of help available in alt.cats, I bet.
When I ran that spay clinic, one of our best trappers merely placed cat
food in the trap – just an open can of wet food. She also covered the
trap with palm fronds and such as camouflage. Once you trap the cat,
cover the trap with an old sheet – keeps their stress level down on the
way to the clinic.
I'm so glad to hear that you are doing the responsible thing.
val
"girlyfied" <girlyf...@gmail.com>
Here is a link with instructions –
http://www.icraeastbay.org/trappinginstructions.html You'll need to buy
a trap. Have–A–Heart traps are the best. They're safer and less
traumatic for cats. http://www.havahart.com/ You should be able to buy
them locally. Contact vets in your area or a local feral spay/neuter
program. In most states, they'll have them for sale. If you have
trouble trapping the cats, contact a feral spay/neuter organization.
They'll trap the cats for you, especially if you're willing to cover
the vet costs to innoculate and spay/neuter. These sites have
directories of programs in various areas – http://felinerescue.net/ and
http://www.h4ha.org/shelters/usa/index.html and
http://www.alleycat.org/resources.html
You *can* tame an adult feral cat to live inside. It takes a lot of
time and patience, but it can be done. Good luck rescuing the cats!
ro...@marigny.UUCP (Robyn)
i trapped a former neighbor's feral colony a few years ago. we rented
humane traps from a local pet store. your SPCA or similar may rent
them also. we put wet cat food or chicken scraps in them. worked great.
FYI, the trap is a little larger than a pet carrier, with a spring mechanism
to trigger the door. the door is triggered by a large wide pedal inside the
trap, and you place the food immediately beyond the pedal, so the cat will
step on the pedal and activate the door. then bring trap containing cat
to your vet or SPCA for neutering. HTH.
––
robyn
robynew <at> yahoo <dot> com
hateith...@aol.com (Hateithere)
I should specify.....I already own 3 (all either adopted or found) so keeping
these 2 is not an option (although I'd love to!). I just want to make sure
they can't add more kittens to the cat colony; I'll be happy to feed and care
for them forever, but unfortunately they'll have to stay outside.
Dana in DE
"Ellen Brickman" <kine...@ptd.net>
Well, my cats were too small to trigger the mechanism on the regular traps.
I rigged up the door of a crate with string and baited it with the stinkiest
wet food I could find and held the door of the crate shut with the string
(laced through the door from top to bottom).
For wet food, I got the kind with whole fishes in it. Horrible stuff. The
cats loved it.
No one ever tells you this, but be prepared for cats howling and fighting
for their lives. They will hurl themselves against the bars of the cage.
The idea of a towel or sheet is excellent. Also, if you are putting in a
crate (I was never able to trap and then whisk immediately to vet. My
successes were always late at night on Saturday), I would suggest a very
secluded room or in the garage.
Good luck and please tell us how it goes!
Ellen


"Hateithere" <hateith...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050102062616.16116.00003...@mb–m02.aol.com...

I need a little help. I'm feeding 2 feral cats right now – they are both
gorgeous. One appears to be a full blooded persian, the other is an
orange and
white tabby. We've purchased a dog house for them and also a huge heated
dog
bed to help get them through the cold winter.
I know that someone here, not too long ago, was able to catch a feral cat,
and
I need to catch these so I can have them spayed/neutered. Then I'll
release
them back out into the wild (they've lived outside as a little colony
forever;
there's no way I'm going to have them cooped up in a vet's cage for the
rest of
their lives or put to sleep).
So how do you go about catching them? They won't come near the house if
anyone
is outside. When I put their food and water out I shake the dry food
really
loud and they know that's the signal to come eat.
As a side note, I adopted another outside/half–feral cat last winter, but
she
was more tame than these two and has turned into a real lovey dovey inside
cat.
I don't think there's any way to tame these two new cats. I was actually
able
to coax Missy into the house with food and water during the winter, but
can't
do that with these two.
Any help or direction is appreciated. I've read some pamplets about what
I
should do, but it just says "trap them and have them spayed/neutered" – it
doesn't say HOW to trap them!
Dana in DE
Charlie Perrin <c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net>
On 02 Jan 2005 17:19:13 GMT, Hateithere wrote:
I should specify.....I already own 3 (all either adopted or found) so keeping
these 2 is not an option (although I'd love to!). I just want to make sure
they can't add more kittens to the cat colony; I'll be happy to feed and care
for them forever, but unfortunately they'll have to stay outside.
Sounds like what you need is a good farm. Farm cats always stay
outside.
gulffritall...@aol.com (Gulffritallary)
Go to feralcat.com – they have instructions for trapping, releasing and sources
for traps:
http://www.feralcat.com/trapinst.html
lutach...@aol.com (Lutachris)
you should really work on getting these guys indoors..outdoor cats kill lots of
wildlife
http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/
aee1...@yahoo.com
girlyfied wrote:
Here is a link with instructions –
http://www.icraeastbay.org/trappinginstructions.html You'll need to
buy
a trap. Have–A–Heart traps are the best. They're safer and less
traumatic for cats. http://www.havahart.com/ You should be able to
buy
them locally. Contact vets in your area or a local feral spay/neuter
program. In most states, they'll have them for sale. If you have
trouble trapping the cats, contact a feral spay/neuter organization.
They'll trap the cats for you, especially if you're willing to cover
the vet costs to innoculate and spay/neuter. These sites have
directories of programs in various areas – http://felinerescue.net/
and
http://www.h4ha.org/shelters/usa/index.html and
http://www.alleycat.org/resources.html
You *can* tame an adult feral cat to live inside. It takes a lot of
time and patience, but it can be done. Good luck rescuing the cats!
You can also try contacting your local animal shelters. Some shelters
allow you to check out traps for a limited time at no charge.
Amanda
missmuffc...@aol.compute (Kendy)
"trap them and have them spayed/neutered" – it
doesn't say HOW to trap them!
You can get special traps on loan from no kill shelters. If you live near a
Pet's Mart they usually have a sheet with all the local places on hand, call
and ask.
I take care of 15+ feral/stray cats a night. I spend more on cat food than my
food! :) I have 2 cats of my own...They are spoiled brats, I wish I could take
more in.
–Kendy
(remove the 'pute' to reply!)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/missmuffcake/
holliesademoc...@aol.com (HolliesaDemocrat)
Good luck trapping them, feral cats are very intelligent creatures. I had a
stray that I started feeding, he was even lovey–dovey, and we could never get
him fixed. We tried the traps, he would get in the trap, eat the food, then
back out without it latching. We tried tripping the latch manually while he was
eating but he was too fast and backed out. We tried putting him in a box, he
chewed/clawed out. We called the program again and they suggested either a
pillowcase or a fishing net. He got out of both before we got him to the car.
Unfortunately a few weeks later he disappeared, probably because we kept trying
to trick him into enclosures.
Best of luck to you, but if you can't catch them, you aren't alone.
ichy...@aol.com (Ichydog)
I need a little help. I'm feeding 2 feral cats right now – they are both
gorgeous. One appears to be a full blooded persian, the other is an orange
and
white tabby. We've purchased a dog house for them and also a huge heated dog
bed to help get them through the cold winter.
I know that someone here, not too long ago, was able to catch a feral cat,
and
I need to catch these so I can have them spayed/neutered. Then I'll release
them back out into the wild (they've lived outside as a little colony
forever;
there's no way I'm going to have them cooped up in a vet's cage for the rest
of
their lives or put to sleep).
So how do you go about catching them? They won't come near the house if
anyone
is outside. When I put their food and water out I shake the dry food really
loud and they know that's the signal to come eat.
As a side note, I adopted another outside/half–feral cat last winter, but she
was more tame than these two and has turned into a real lovey dovey inside
cat.
I don't think there's any way to tame these two new cats. I was actually
able
to coax Missy into the house with food and water during the winter, but can't
do that with these two.
Any help or direction is appreciated. I've read some pamplets about what I
should do, but it just says "trap them and have them spayed/neutered" – it
doesn't say HOW to trap them!
Dana in DE
Hi Dana,
A friend who is very active in spay/neuter of feral cats recommends:
SafeGuard feral cat trap
Favorite trap for catching feral cats for sterilizing.
Around $50 plus shipping. Model # 52830 (30" x 11" x 12") (1" x 1"
14 gauge)
http://www.safeguardproducts.com
As I recall she has now trapped and released over 100 cats!
Lisa
"Ethylene" <ethyle...@yahoo.com>
Valerie Belcher wrote:
It is wisest not to bring feral cats into your house, even if you
could
entice them in. I have a friend who did just that only to discover
they
had kitty HIV. She now has her own cats quarantined in one bedroom
and
the feral cats in another. She is really stuck, as she does not want
to
put the cats out in the street but she cannot find any shelter or
organization that will accept these cats.
I'm sorry about your friend's cats, however I want to point out that
vets can test for HIV and Feline Leukemia Virus. If one were
considering bringing an outside cat indoors, especially if there are
other cats, getting the test done before the cats intermingle could
save a lot of heartache.
I understand the OP cannot take in these ferals, but I don't want to
give others negative impressions about rescuing strays.
–Marcia
blondeanimat...@aol.comNOSPAM2D (NOSPAM2DAYJennifer Summers)
lutach...@aol.com (Lutachris)
Date: 1/2/2005 10:55 PM Eastern Standard Time
you should really work on getting these guys indoors..outdoor cats kill lots
of
wildlife
According to my brother, a Veterinarian, cats can only catch wild life that is
sickened or not strong enough to evade them. You know...the survival of the
fittest. I feed a feral cat myself and am trying to capture it to have it
neutered. Then I will release it back outside.
jennifer summers
Charlie Perrin <c.l.per...@SPAMBOTS_DIEatt.net>
On 04 Jan 2005 17:49:53 GMT, NOSPAM2DAYJennifer Summers wrote:
(Lutachris) wrote:
you should really work on getting these guys indoors..outdoor cats kill lots
of wildlife
According to my brother, a Veterinarian, cats can only catch wild life that is
sickened or not strong enough to evade them.
If the cat is strong enough, it'll catch all the wildlife.
michele...@aol.combover (Michele317)
you should really work on getting these guys indoors..outdoor cats kill
lots of
wildlife
http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/
.... and having lost a few ducks (pets on my property) to a feral cat, i second
this :(. the well–intentioned person who had been feeding this cat didn't put
out food for a few mornings and the cat went wandering in search of a meal.
can't blame the cat for doing what cats do, and i know not all feral cats can
be brought indoors, but if you're feeding them, please keep up the commitment!
michele, wondering why posts are finally showing up here...
hateith...@aol.com (Hateithere)
you should really work on getting these guys indoors..outdoor cats kill lots
of
wildlife
http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/
*FYI – I'm not getting all the messages in this thread...I only seem to get the
ones directly emailed to me and 1 or 2 others. If anyone has pertinent
information could you send it via email? Thanks*
As for the comment about bringing them inside – it'd be lovely, but I'm already
a Mom to 3 cats so there's no way I'm adopting more. The vet bills and food is
high enough with 3 :). The only other alternative would be to give them to the
vet – therefore they'd spend the rest of their lives inside a small room (thank
goodness he doesn't put them to sleep; they keep all the cats brought to them).
By spaying/neutering I'm preventing them from breeding and helping the cat and
bird population. I'm not a fan of killing tons of cats to save the
birds.....not that I don't like birds :)
One of the kitties I adopted last year is due for her yearly checkup and shots
so I'm going to ask my vet if he has any of the cages I can use to capture
them. The doghouse we purchased for them will arrive today and then we're
plugging in a heated dog bed to put inside it. That should keep them
warm/fed/happy while we work out how to catch them and have them fixed. Then
again....someone may have already done it! There's no way for me to know until
I can capture them.
The persian is absolutely gorgeous. She has more fur than I've ever seen in my
life and her face is so flat she looks like a truck backed into her!! If I
could I'd adopt her, but unfortunately the half–feral cat I adopted last year
still isn't totally comfortable in the house and around the 2 other cats, and I
can't distress her anymore by adding another cat. She loves me to death, but
still lashes out at the kids and the other female cat. She's getting much much
better but it's a slow process to change her life so much.
Dana in DE
Valerie Belcher <V.Belc...@att.net>
It is wisest not to bring feral cats into your house, even if you could
entice them in. I have a friend who did just that only to discover they
had kitty HIV. She now has her own cats quarantined in one bedroom and
the feral cats in another. She is really stuck, as she does not want to
put the cats out in the street but she cannot find any shelter or
organization that will accept these cats.
Hateithere wrote:
*FYI – I'm not getting all the messages in this thread...I only seem to get the
ones directly emailed to me and 1 or 2 others. If anyone has pertinent
information could you send it via email? Thanks*
As for the comment about bringing them inside – it'd be lovely, but I'm already
a Mom to 3 cats so there's no way I'm adopting more. The vet bills and food is
high enough with 3 :). The only other alternative would be to give them to the
vet – therefore they'd spend the rest of their lives inside a small room (thank
goodness he doesn't put them to sleep; they keep all the cats brought to them).
By spaying/neutering I'm preventing them from breeding and helping the cat and
bird population. I'm not a fan of killing tons of cats to save the
birds.....not that I don't like birds :)
One of the kitties I adopted last year is due for her yearly checkup and shots
so I'm going to ask my vet if he has any of the cages I can use to capture
them. The doghouse we purchased for them will arrive today and then we're
plugging in a heated dog bed to put inside it. That should keep them
warm/fed/happy while we work out how to catch them and have them fixed. Then
again....someone may have already done it! There's no way for me to know until
I can capture them.
The persian is absolutely gorgeous. She has more fur than I've ever seen in my
life and her face is so flat she looks like a truck backed into her!! If I
could I'd adopt her, but unfortunately the half–feral cat I adopted last year
still isn't totally comfortable in the house and around the 2 other cats, and I
can't distress her anymore by adding another cat. She loves me to death, but
still lashes out at the kids and the other female cat. She's getting much much
better but it's a slow process to change her life so much.
Dana in DE
Ruddell <ruddell'Elle–Kabo...@canada.com>
In <QLidnb7AkNgps0XcUSd...@ptd.net> Ellen Brickman wrote:
Well, my cats were too small to trigger the mechanism on the regular
traps. I rigged up the door of a crate with string and baited it with
the stinkiest wet food I could find and held the door of the crate
shut with the string (laced through the door from top to bottom).
For wet food, I got the kind with whole fishes in it. Horrible stuff.
The cats loved it.
No one ever tells you this, but be prepared for cats howling and
fighting for their lives. They will hurl themselves against the bars
of the cage. The idea of a towel or sheet is excellent. Also, if you
are putting in a crate (I was never able to trap and then whisk
immediately to vet. My successes were always late at night on
Saturday), I would suggest a very secluded room or in the garage.
Good luck and please tell us how it goes!
Yes, I hope she does let us know what happens (and pics of course). I'd
imagine though when taking them to the vet, the vet would want to know
where they came from and probably need them registered under local
bylaws...
––
Cheers
Dennis
Remove 'Elle–Kabong' to reply
hateith...@aol.com (Hateithere)
Yes, I hope she does let us know what happens (and pics of course). I'd
imagine though when taking them to the vet, the vet would want to know
where they came from and probably need them registered under local
bylaws...
––
Cheers
Dennis
Remove 'Elle–Kabong' to reply
Nah, the rules aren't as strong for cats as they are for dogs. I can simply
bring them in and have them fixed and no one would say a word. You don't have
to register cats in the state of Delaware. Most people I know don't ever take
their cats to a vet unless they get really sick; I take mine in for yearly
checkups and to keep their shots up to date.
Dana in DE
holliesademoc...@aol.com (HolliesaDemocrat)
It is wisest not to bring feral cats into your house, even if you could
entice them in. I have a friend who did just that only to discover they
had kitty HIV. She now has her own cats quarantined in one bedroom and
the feral cats in another. She is really stuck, as she does not want to
put the cats out in the street but she cannot find any shelter or
organization that will accept these cats.
Hateithere wrote:
the
already
food is
the
(thank
them).
and
shots
Then
until
in my
year
and I
but
much
Where does this friend live? I'm sure I can find an organization near there
that takes in FIV or FeLV kitties. I live in Hickville and there are two within
fifteen minutes of my house, you just have to know what channels to go through.
She is right, if you have other cats you should be mindful that they may be
diseased, a garage would be the best place to keep a stray until it is tested.
With them being in a feral colony, it's pretty likely that one of these two
diseases are present.
"Ethylene" <ethyle...@yahoo.com>
In addition to the other excellent posts, let me just say that IMO,
it's best to trap the kitties during the day when you can still run
them to the vet. As a previous poster mentioned, the cats will bang
their heads against the cage, and in some areas, they can become prey
for other animals. If you must trap at night, if you can check the trap
a few times and do cover with a sheet or blanket.
What you are doing is wonderful.
–Marcia