Victoria's Dirty Secret

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"E101110" <e...@basetree.com> wrote in message
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This link takes you to an article about Victoria's Secret's use of
non–recycled paper to produce hundreds of millions of catalogs each year.
I'm surprised the number isn't bigger considering the fact that I often get
several VS catalogs per week. Some catalog sellers produce a "master
catalog" once or twice a year that include *all* their products. I tend to
keep these and refer to them for my purchases. The umpteen VS catalogs end
up in my recycling bin.
cofarb

"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com> wrote in news:5OSdnTD43Y8fNy3cRVn–
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Our college age son intercepts the VS and Frederick's catalogs – they're
apparently like currency in the dorms and frat houses.
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Userb3 writes:
Hmmm.... I would be quite wealthy in his dorm and frat house then. I get about
10 VS catalogs a week, sometimes 3 in a single day. It's ridiculous and such a
waste!
Linda

julane...@aol.com (Linda) wrote in
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I agree – I buy something for my wife maybe once a year or so, but I
easily get 20 catalogs a year. I'm guessing the markting strategy is that
fancy lingerie is an impulse purchase, so the more times they put their
merchandise in front of your eyes, the more likely you are to buy from
them.
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"Linda" <julane...@aol.com> wrote in message
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such a
I have no doubt a small forest was destroyed by companies sending me so many
catalogues. This Xmas season has been worse than usual.

I just moved into this house last August. The amount of catalogs the former
owner received is obscene. There are definitely a plethora of non–attractive
clothing opportunities circulating via the post office.

A Adams writes:
I agree! It seemed that for the past 5 years or so, I was getting fewer and
fewer catalogs, especially around the holidays, which I figured was due to the
increase in website/internet availability of catalogs. This year however, I've
been absolutely inundated with catalogs, and so many of them are repeats – I've
gotten 5–6 of the same 15 catalogs or so, included in with other unique catalog
mailings. I can't imagine companies are sending out such huge multiple
mailings of the same catalogs on purpose, it's such a waste of money, paper,
trees, etc. I've been receiving on average about 30 catalogs a day for the
past month.
Linda

I have been on the phone at least every day this past week, asking to
get off mlg lists. They all tell me I'll still get a few more
cataliogs – the company wh. does the mlg seem to be way ahead on
issues reasy to go –
my mailbox is loaded withthe junk, from companies I have never dealt
with ––
at least I get a chance to chat with the 'operator' and ask how's the
weather wherever they are. Most are friendly, but I supposed they get
gigged for not taking a true order on every call. Tough.
I'm on a mission to reduce the junk mail that comes to my address and
hopefully save a tree here and there.
They all tell me that they don't know of any culling procedure in
their company – just keep mlg the s––t and hope for the best. Idiots.
now i'll get off my broom....
val

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 08:54:45 –0500, cofarb wrote:
There's also the DMA's Mail Preference Service.

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 13:26:07 –0600, Stacy Ferguson wrote:
Companies are notorious for not scrubbing their address lists.
You'll figure that out when you live on a street or a city whose name
lends itself to misspellings.
I even had one that changed my address when I moved to something like:
Charles L. Perrin
???? South Road
Wichita, Kansas 67201
Huntsville, Alabama 35801
USPS sometimes got it right... USPS sometimes sent it back as
undeliverable. I called to ask where my stuff was once, and the phone
person looked at the address and went "That can't be right!"
They don't even scrub out the misspellings that don't map to a real
place, they dump the results in the mail system and let the USPS try
to deal with it.
Bungled spellings even make it onto credit reports, thanks to inept
creditors who have never heard of data validation. (The credit bureau
that has it lists it, but notes that it is not valid... but they don't
purge it!)

I have gotten a Williams and Sonoma catalog every 10 days and the same with
The Pottery Barn. One of each is sufficient.
Carol

The multiple mailings for me have included both catalogs I've ordered from and
ones I haven't. The worst offenders have been:
Victorias Secret
Brookstone
Hammacher Schlemmer
Neiman Marcus
Hard to Find Tools
Ross Simons
Frontgate
Coldwater Creek
Sharper Image
and 4–5 others than I can't think of offhand.
Linda

Trying to email you privately but it's getting kicked back. Please email
me.
donna
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"val189" <gwehr...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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In some states, you can file a "reduced junk mail" request directly with the
post office. I don't know how they differentiate between companies whose
mail you want to receive and those you don't, but it might be worth a call
to the p.o. to find out if this is an option for you.
I've been in the direct mail biz and I marvel at the mass, volume and
quality of mailings I receive––I know they cost a fortune to send out.
Companies should be thrilled when you ask to be removed from a list, but I
find that they often want to put me through the third degree––asking for my
name, address, mailing codes galore. It takes too long and is a PITA, imho.
Still, to save a few billion trees, it's worth it.
cofarb

In article <20041203213653.14275.00001...@mb–m13.aol.com>,
julane...@aol.com (Linda) wrote:
Actually, I'm starting to wonder if it's BECAUSE of the internet that I
get so many duplicates of the same catalogs. The ones I get the most
duplicates of are companies I've placed online orders with or companies
owned by the same corporation. My duplicates have subtle differences in
the address labels. Middle initial there or not, different spacing
between words on the label different, incorrect spellings (e.g. "Stacey"
instead of "Stacy"), etc. I have the feeling that the programs they use
to generate labels recognize every difference as a new address. If I'm
already on a snail mail list I seem to get more catalogs if I order from
the same company online.
Stacy

"Stacy Ferguson" <stac...@stacyef.net> wrote in message
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You might be right. Often if my Husband buys me something, we end up with
duplicate catalogues, one with his name and one with mine. It's quite
absurd.

"Carol" <carolc...@aol.combyespam> wrote in message
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I received my third or fourth NM Holiday book. This year I didn't order
a single items from it.
Audrey

Linda <julane...@aol.com> wrote:
We've received multiple continuous copies of all of the above, and
more. It seems as if I spend half my day stripping the identification
from catalogs and shredding it. I've written all of them at least once,
some of them up to a year ago, but the catalogs keep coming.
A.

In <Xns95B48A14B145FElvisisal...@207.14.113.17> Userb3 wrote:
Once in a while I glance through them, but always keep one handy for
lining the bird cage each week...
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Cheers
Dennis
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"cofarb" <do...@cofarb.com> wrote
but it's the printing and waste I'm fighting.
the company may want to, but the person taking the call is usually not
too well trained to execute a deletion. Some calls take 5 minutes,
but I get to ask about the weather in her area, paint pictures of
exploding mailboxes, anything to get compliance. Some seem to be able
to find me right away, others act like I'm not even on their current
list. With some of them, I have to pretend I wish to order just to get
to a live body. Maybe if postal rates went skyhigh, they'd rethink
scrubbing their lists of the nonresponders.
Somehow, I've never gotten on the Victoria's Secret list, but have
heard abt the frequency of mlgs. (Guess they know I'm beyond the
desire for sexy underwear, old bag me.) A crime against Nature!! Are
you listening, VS? Get responsible.
Say, Donna, I'm getting back into the animal trade – volunteering for
a group trying to place homeless pets. Everyone wants a dog, hardly
any want cats.