your thoughts please

HI there
got this in an email newsletter. .. what's your take on this?
http://desirelosangeles.com/article.php?ArticleID=132
and what do you think of her comments about the mules being worn here in LA?
I know for non LA people, this might sound stupid but until this past
weekend, it's been incredibly lovely here. If it's warm enough, why not wear
the mules?
and the comment about pink being in season... it still is.. just in
different tones and doses
I agree with some of what she says, but not all..... and certainly one can
take the fashion challenged person to those events she mentions and maybe
expose them to something beyond the life of minis or boxer shorts.
Stevie
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 04:50:01 –0800, Stevie wrote:
IMHO, contradictory quotes:
"More than anything, I love a woman who has her own unique, personal
style."
"So please, why not give your sandals a rest till the spring?"
IMHO, the writer needs a thump upside the head with a pair of Air
Deschütz! <grin/duck>

I found the article interesting. I don't really put much stock into
articles that define that staunchly what is fashionable and what is not.
People define their own sense of style, and individual climates vary so much
that I take all of that into consideration when I apprise what people are
wearing. On the other hand, I don't really care what people wear. If they
can stomach it, who am I to say whether it looks awful? ( Example: I don't
really wear many blue jeans and tennis shoes but it's the uniform of many
and I don't judge it.)
The author's question about whether I would invite the "inappropriate"
dresser to an important event is another issue. No, I would not invite
someone who consistently dresses inappropriately in those situations. Daisy
dukes may be worn around here in the e–e–extended summer, but noone I know
wears them to functions that require proper dress. And I think anyone of a
certain age probably has a good idea what appropriate dress is. But
appropriate dress and stylish dress are two different things and appropriate
dress is not necessarily always stylish.
Jamie

Stevie wrote:
in LA?
not wear
If it's warm enough, I say yes to mules and other strappy footwear, who
cares what the season is. With that said, I do think it's silly for a
woman to wear strappy footwear when it's cold out! Never made any sense
to me. If your feet are cold and your toes are turning blue, then it's
too cold for sandals. That's my rule.
Yes, pink is always in season.
one can
maybe
I found it odd that she recommends fur for the office, provided it
doesn't look like you're wearing your pet. Personally, I think fur
(except on a coat or other outerwear) is completely inappropriate for
all but the rarest corporate settings (it would be fine for an artistic
or fashion–related job). To me, wearing a sweater with a fur collar to
work is the equivalent of wearing a sequined top. But then again, I'm
boringly conservative when it comes to work attire.
jen

Leigh Melton wrote:
Well, she did, sort of. Her defense is that temps below 65 are too cool
for sandals. This is debatable, and IMO more of a matter of personal
preference. Some people have warmer toes than others and would be quite
comfy wearing sandals in 65 degree weather. My personal cutoff is
around 72 degrees, which is what our office is kept at year–round. If
the outside weather is going to hover below 70, I prefer pumps rather
than sandals, but it is more a matter of comfort than fashion.
Of course, I break all the rules when it comes to holiday dressing. If
I'm going to a ritzy affair I have been known to wear strappy sandals
out in the snow, or at least wear Uggs to get to the event then switch
into sandals once I arrive.=20
jen

This applies to Arizona–ians also.
Even though it is raining and chilly (about 50 degrees, and for us, that is
chilly), several shoppers in Target had on Birks and even saw one male shopper
in shorts.
Carol

"Carol" <carolc...@aol.combyespam> wrote in message
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I know lots of Californians especially
students who wear shorts and sandals all year.
is
shopper
thanks for all the great feedback. it was an interesting pov huh
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:46:26 –0500, Leigh Melton wrote:
Unless you work for Fur Commission USA, then it's a general yes–yes:
http://www.furcommission.com/

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 04:50:01 –0800, "Stevie"
<privilegemagaz...@charter.net> wrote:
I live in Georgia where this is the time of year that it can be 72 or
42, it just all depends. On the 72 degree days I'm going to wear open
footwear if I want to, I don't care if it is near Thanksgiving.
I've often stood in front of my closet thinking "I shouldn't wear
this" because it's a lighter–weight item, but then I think yeah, so I
should wear a "seasonally appropriate" sweater even though I'll be hot
and uncomfortable? Seasonally appropriate to whom? Seasons around
here don't neatly fit the New Yorker's calendar, sorry. I'm going for
what is Weather Appropriate. That can vary almost daily.
This comment is what first alerted me to a serious gap between her
views and mine: "Though “no white after labor day” is a tired rule
that should be ignored, wearing sandals to work once the temperature
has dipped below 65F is cringe–worthy."
So one rule is tired and one rule should never, ever be broken. I
notice she didn't defend either position.
Personally I think fur in the office is a general no–no. Emotions run
high on the subject of wearing (real) fur. While I don't wear it
myself, IMO it's a personal choice for everyone to make and don't
think one person's ideas should dictate another's choices. You still
run the risk of offending someone by wearing it, from corporate
officers to clients. Plus, as someone pointed out, it's like wearing
sequins to work. Fine if that's your corporate culture, but I would
think most aren't like that.
Leigh
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Leigh Melton wrote:
open
hot
for
Exactly. And, it works the other direction, too. It would look really
silly to wear a tweed suit or boots in the Bahamas, even if it is
technically winter.
I've been thinking about this lately because we're going to Miami over
xmas. Not sure what to pack. I figure things that are both weather
*and* seasonally appropriate?
Well, she did, sort of. Her defense is that temps below 65 are too cool
for sandals. This is debatable, and IMO more of a matter of personal
preference. Some people have warmer toes than others and would be quite
comfy wearing sandals in 65 degree weather. My personal cutoff is
around 72 degrees, which is what our office is kept at year–round. If
the outside weather is going to hover below 70, I prefer pumps rather
than sandals, but it is more a matter of comfort than fashion.
Of course, I break all the rules when it comes to holiday dressing. If
I'm going to a ritzy affair I have been known to wear strappy sandals
out in the snow, or at least wear Uggs to get to the event then switch
into sandals once I arrive.=20
jen

carolc...@aol.combyespam (Carol) wrote in message news:<20041122151456.08096.00001...@mb–m07.aol.com>...
I know lots of Californians especially
students who wear shorts and sandals all year.
Or in Minnesota, with thick wool socks!

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:48:37 –0500, "Jamie"
<zuschlag–sequ...@tds.net> wrote:
If the "asker" is in a position of authority, as the
scenario described suggested, then the asker should have
long since dealt tactfully with the underling's lousy
dressing. There's more to leadership than dishing out
orders, after all!
I thought most of the article was moderately pretentious
twaddle, with the occasional drift into stating the
glaringly obvious.
But as it was entirely an opinion piece, that's fine. ;)
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Wow! I found the view espoused in the article extremelly
narrow–minded.
From my experience, having grown up in a city with warm climate, I can
say that you wear what's appropriate to your locale and not to fit–in
with the current season at the opposite side of the country (or the
world for that matter) Her article reminded me of an article I read
about South Africa about how the colonists made the school children
there wear the same uniforms kids wore in the UK––right down to the
gloves––which may have been perfectly appropriate for the cold UK
climate but were unbearable in S.A.
I think the writer's POV of always going with the "safe/tried option"
betrays a lack of personal style. Is there a worse fashion crime than
a mediocre look brought about by the fear of applying your own
personal touch to the fashion of the times?
The writing of fashion articles should really be reserved to
trendsetters; after all we already know what the trend followers are
doing.
––Maria

"Stevie" <privilegemagaz...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Interesting article. How you dress has a lot more to do with your
climate, lifestyle and personal preferences than what is dictated in an
article. It can be very unseasonably warm in southern California so the
lady dressed in her tweeds and boots on a warm winter day may be just
too hot and uncomfortable. I know lots of Californians especially
students who wear shorts and sandals all year. It's not my personal
style but they would feel overdressed in anything else. IMO they need
to get rid of the casual wear if they are going to a more formal event.
Pink IMO is always in season as is winter white. I'm just not a winter
white or any type of white fan. The restaurant where we dine frequently
has three seating areas, the outdoor patio, tables near the window and
the main dining area. I notice that very casually dressed diners are
seated in the area near the window but people outside the restaurant
cannot really see what they are wearing other than shirts or tops. I am
sure this article will bring on the comments from those who don't like
to dress up or dress season appropriate and say they should be able to
dress any way they want no matter what the occasion but IMO I usually
like to dress for the season and the occasion. I said usually because
like cofarb you can often see me dressed up for a trip to the grocery
store.
Audrey

LOL. Well, I have to admit I chuckled in recognition about the sandals in
the office in the winter, but I don't consider it a fashion faux pas. I
think it just still suprises me when I see it b.c. I grew up on the east
coast, where you just plain can't do that for practical reasons. Personally,
I don't wear sandals to the office in the winter, but probably b.c. I get
cold easily. Plus, I adore wearing boots which becomes impractical in
summer, so I wear them as much as I can in the winter. However if I'm just
running out of the house to walk my dog or grab a Starbucks, you definately
might see me in sandals or slip–ons in the winter.


"Stevie" <privilegemagaz...@charter.net> wrote in message
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LA?
wear

"Stevie" <privilegemagaz...@charter.net> wrote in message
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It's funny how she writes that she loves a woman who has her own sense of
style after soundly dissing someone for wearing––egads, what was she
thinking?!––dressy mules. (When she started in about sandals, I was
thinking Tevas or Birks, not gold–buckled, Gucci–esque mules.)
cofarb
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I live in a climate that ranges from cool to warm in winter, and
really like shearling clogs at this time of year. They're very
comfy––warm enough without socks when temps are in the 40's–50's, but
not too hot when it's in the 70's, and look great with casual and
sporty clothes.
Julianne X