Turtlenecks yes or no?

I see on TV show "What not to wear" they usually recommend open neck tops. Are
turtlenecks generally not advisable or how about the variation of mock
turtleneck? I do like to wear them. I found a scrunch neck turtle top at
Walmart.It is Faded Glory brand and in hot pink. I thought it kind of perked up
my winter blues and blacks.
Mary
"In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but
planning is indispensable." Dwight D. Eisenhower

"Mpamber" <mpam...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Lordy, but I wear turtlenecks practically every day in the winter! I have a
vast collection of them, including a bunch of turtleneck bodysuits. Here in
the tundra, a few extra inches of exposed skin, whether it's at the neck or
above those low–rise jeans, can be painful!
cofarb
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I'm wearing a lavender cashmere turtleneck as I read your post. I
really don't like the mock ones but think the turtleneck is perfect ehen
you want to wear heavy pendants. Also I always wear them when I walk
for morning exercise in cold weather.
Audrey

Mpamber wrote:
tops.
I think they only advise this for those of us who were cursed with
short necks. If you have a graceful long neck, wear them – they look
great. If you are like me and have a short neck and tendency towards
growing extra chins, open neck (especially V) is much more flattering
because it elongates the neck.
With that said, when it's cold who cares what you look like as long as
your neck is warm!!!
And, if you do have a short neck like me, turtlenecks *can* work and be
not just warm but flattering, too. I've learned to pay attention to
fit. A petite turtleneck tends to have less fabric at the neck and be
fitted proportionately. (Same idea as a mock, except a tad more
fabric). Also take care to pick a color that complements your face.
Black turtlenecks look horrid on me (although black v–necks are just
fine). Something in red or pink or green (to pick up the green in my
eyes) works better closer to my face.
jen

I wrote OP and that could be what they are talking about on TV show "What Not
to Wear." In this case, they could mean that it only applied to their
particular client.
I don't know if they on TV show intended this to mean just turtlenecks worn as
a layering pieces under a suit jacket.
Maybe a turtleneck sweater worn by itself would be acceptable in the eyes of
show.
Mary
"In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but
planning is indispensable." Dwight D. Eisenhower

A couple weeks ago a complete stranger told me that my face was too
round for a turtle neck under a suit coat. I thought it was funny.
On 28 Oct 2004 01:33:05 GMT, mpam...@aol.comnospam (Mpamber) wrote:
Mpamber wrote:
I see on TV show "What not to wear" they usually recommend open neck
tops.
I think they only advise this for those of us who were cursed with
short necks. If you have a graceful long neck, wear them – they look
great.

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I wrote OP and I think it was the lady lawyer who is very tall and wore a lot
of black.
Mary
"In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but
planning is indispensable." Dwight D. Eisenhower

Sarah <sjkot...@yahoo.com> wrote on 27 Oct 2004:
How rude!
––
Poetic Badgers
"The most courageous act is still to think for yourself. Aloud."
–Coco Chanel

no turtle necks r totaly last year.
i mean capital U–G–L–Y, u know what i mean? if u gota responce 2 me
email me at nicolemar...@webtv.net

Depends on your build and your face. They look awful on me, so I say no.

chillled <chill...@hotmail.comeuppance> wrote in message news:<_JMgd.805861$Gx4.454...@bgtnsc04–news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
They look awful on me, too. But some folks look great in them, just
not me. So, for ME it's a NO.

Mpamber wrote:
"What Not
turtlenecks worn as
eyes of
It was probably dependent on the particular client. Do you remember
what episode, because now I'm curious to check it out on the WNTW site.
Turtlenecks look great on a lot of people, and I'm always envious of
them. Layered under a suit jacket, I think it's a nice look, especially
with pants. Although I don't think I would wear a t–neck under a suit
for a job interview or a professional position such as banking where
you want the traditional suit look – better in that case to go with a
shell or other blouse. If you want a warm neck, a colorful scarf would
be nice too.
I would be careful that the fabric of the jacket and turtleneck are
complementary. For example, a cotton turtleneck would work best under a
casual–style jacket of corduroy, denim, suede, etc. Whereas a
fine–gauge wool or cashmere t–neck sweater would look snappy under a
wool or velvet jacket, etc. I would also probably stick to a
form–fitting t–neck instead of a loose one, to ensure that the fabric
doesn't bunch up under the suit jacket and add extra bulk and bulges.
Otherwise, what I hear most often on WNTW is to wear something with a
splash of flattering color under the suit, especially if it's a dark
neutral color. This gives you some "pop" near your face and draws the
eye up to your face. Pink and red and light blue are my personal
favorite colors under a black, brown or navy suit. YMMV. I think color
works a lot better than white.
Finally, another great reason to opt for T–necks is to cover up skin on
your neck. This is one place that ages rapidly. I have young–looking
skin and few wrinkles on my face, but you can tell my age by looking at
my neck, which is starting to get a little crepey. A scarf works great
for that too, but if you don't want all that fuss, a T–neck under a
suit or alone is a great option. Even though I have a short neck, as I
get older, T–necks look more and more appealing. It's kind of like
choosing the lesser of the two evils – T–neck would cover my crepey
neck, even if it draws attention to the fact that it happens to be
short!
jen

It sounds like I will have to write a retraction on this. I wrote OP. I went
searching at the What not to Wear site and came up with this. I understand the
mannequin is what you are supposed to wear. This is the lawyer, Marie, and it
least one of her looks does show turtleneck.
http://tlc.discovery.com/fansites/whatnottowear/episodes2/marie/mariephoto
_05.html
Mary
"In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but
planning is indispensable." Dwight D. Eisenhower

Mpamber wrote:
particular client. Do you remember
what episode, because now I'm curious to check it out on the WNTW
site.
I wrote OP and I think it was the lady lawyer who is very tall and
wore a lot
of black.
I went
understand the
Marie, and it
http://tlc.discovery.com/fansites/whatnottowear/episodes2/marie/mariephoto
Oh, yeah, I remember that episode. It was one of my favorite "afters."
Marie was wearing too much black, black, black, outdated styles that
just hung on her and did nothing to flatter her envious, fit figure,
and her hair really looked ratty. In the "afters" she looked fabulous
in jewel tones and shades of brown. Made me go out and update my
wardrobe with shades of brown this year.
As for the turtleneck, Marie has a long neck and long (not round) face,
plus fabulous cheekbones and bone structure. She's definetly a TN type
IMO. The soft material and jewel colors are very flattering to her
face.
With that said, if you click through the afters to the last photo, in
which she's wearing a gorgeous red skirt (I want a skirt just like
that), black jacket and a black scoop–neck blouse, note how she looks
even *better* in a scoop–neck rather than TN.
jen

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BTD: Sometimes turtlenecks don't fold over properly and you have the seam
showing which I don't like; but my neck gets stiff from the cold so these
styles are practical. I did get two seamless styles which work nice. The
scrunch neck sounds interesting I see them at Newport News but never got
around to buying one

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:32:42 GMT, chillled
<chill...@hotmail.comeuppance> wrote:
I wish I could wear them, but my neck is just too short and my face
too round for it. I have a couple of mock necks though.
I have tried wearing them, but my head ends up looking like a bowling
ball perched atop a fuzzy pedestal. Not the look I really want to go
for. :)
When I wear mock necks, I usually wear them layered under a shirt or
vest. It just seems to give more of an illusion of length to my neck.
The look fabulous on other people though, so I say "yes and no".
Leigh
––
Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich. – D. Duck

i love turtlenecks, and live in them as soon as the cool weather
starts!
(i'm tall, with a long neck)
––
rosie
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I'm another one that probably shouldn't wear a turtleneck, pregnant or
not. But they're oh so practical in cool weather, soft, and comfy.
It probably helps in that despite my round face, my neck's of average
length.
Celia
(who's seeing all kinds of trendy stuff in maternity stores whether
they're flattering to the pregnant shape or not)

ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
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Depends on your build and your face. They look awful on me, so I
say no.
With so many on this thread saying they don't like or wear TN's, I have
to wonder why all the stores seem to be offering are turtlenecks,
turtlenecks, turtlenecks????
jen

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Personally, on myself, I prefer a mock turtleneck. I don't like how a
regular turtleneck feels. It's too much, I feel like I'm choking, and here
usually the heat is on so high, I'd be sweating to death indoors in a
regular turtleneck.
On other people I think regular turtlenecks, and mock ones, look just fine.

mpam...@aol.comnospam (Mpamber) wrote in message news:<20041027191506.23728.00002...@mb–m12.aol.com>...
whaddaTHEYknow!!
I can't wait for some cool Florida weather so I can don mine.
val

I prefer v necks, but have started getting back into turtlenecks and mock
turtlenecks. To me, they're classic.
Heather

This was a major topic in the "What Not to Wear" book (written by the British
women who started the show and inspired the American version). It really opened
my eyes and made me re–assess my turtleneck collection...if it is for practical
reasons of warmth there is no arguing with the TN. But they are often
unflattering. Look before you leap! When I did, I unfortunately had to give up
a thick, cable–knit, short–sleeve gray cashmere TN I bought last year. Now I
understand why it doesn't look good on me, although it's a lovely sweater.
––Anne–Marie

On 28 Oct 2004 17:36:10 GMT, fashiond...@aol.com (Fashiondish) wrote:
I just got that book out of the library and was mortified to read what
they say about turtlenecks on women with large chests.
I have a ton of turtlenecks and it never occurred to me that they
might not look good. I love wearing them but now I know that I'm
going to feel really self–conscious about it. I usually don't worry
too much about that kind of thing (I happily wear cropped pants even
though I'm probably not "supposed" to) but in this case I think I
might have to restrict the turtlenecks to being worn underneath other
things or in really cold weather.
Katie
(who was confused at first since in the book they call them "polo
necks", which for me means something else entirely)

"shinypenny" <shinypenny0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<1098926400.127031.214...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
Bless you Jen, you hit the nail right on the head! I, too, have a
short neck and the few times I have worn a turtleneck in many years
past, I looked like I had too many chins. A turtleneck makes my head
look like a pumpkin sprouting out of my shoulders. Never mind the
constant tugging and pulling of that collar. Some of are destined to
wear them and some of are not, I'm a NOT. Ahhhh, to have an Audrey
Hepburn neck.
Like another poster said, I think they were just talking about a
particular client when it came to the turtlenecks. If it's the lawyer
they were making over, and if my memory serves me correctly, she wore
t.n.'s seven days a week. I also think she had a stash of well over
40 sweaters. She really had gotten in a rut with them and always with
a navy or black pantsuit.

ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
Yes.... sigh.... this is on my wish–list for my next reincarnation. :–)
I own only one turtleneck. It's red merino fine–gauge wool from BR,
perfectly proportioned so it gives me less of a double chin effect, and
the red is a nice punchy color with blue undertones to complement my
skin. I save it for really cold days.
Otherwise, my preference is for v–necks and scoop necks. They really do
make my neck look longer. Boatnecks seem to work okay too (show off the
curve from shoulder to neck. Crew necks are last in line, right before
turtlenecks.
I really want to wear scarves around my neck this year, but I keep
backing out last minute because i can't help but think it has the TN
effect on me.
jen

I'm not a huge turtleneck fan, and i don't think they're particularly stylish
at the moment, but there's something wonderful about putting one on in the
winter.
A black or navy turtleneck with jeans is one of my favorite looks.
cary

This worked for me in New Hampshire, now I get too warm wearing a turtleneck
in the wild west.
Carol
"There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people:
religion, politics and The Great Pumpkin" Linus Van Pelt

mpam...@aol.comnospam (Mpamber) wrote in message news:<20041027191506.23728.00002...@mb–m12.aol.com>...
You may want to go for mocknecks like several other posters suggested.
I only wear mocknecks because IMO they add warmth but are less bunchy
than regular turtlenecks and they look better on my short neck. I
usually wear them w/o jackets but think they still look fine under
them as well since they are more streamlined than regular turtlenecks.
FWIW I still have a funnelneck left over from a few seasons back when
they were in style and it will need to go. It makes me look like I
have NO neck at all. The odd thing is I have other funnelnecks that
still look good. YMMV alot with funnelnecks so try them on before
buying them. One may look good, another awful and going up or down a
size may make a difference even w/ the same sweater.
HTH
Vicki in DC who's wearing a mockneck as I type this :–)

mpam...@aol.comnospam (Mpamber) wrote in message news:<20041027191506.23728.00002...@mb–m12.aol.com>...
IMHO, it is because maybe only 2 or 3 out of 10 people look good in
turtlenecks.
Short neck –– a turtleneck will make it disappear
Thick neck –– will look even thicker
Round or wide face –– wider
Double chin or just some extra fat under your chin or the loose skin
that comes as an age sign–– a turtleneck collar accentuates it all
In short, most people who look good in turtlenecks are lean, have
narrow or oval or elongated faces and relatively long and slender
necks. There aren't many such people out there :)
Just like a while ago high ("Chinese") collar shirts were quite
popular (often with a tux for an evening look), but only trim, lean,
relatively long–necked men looked good in them.

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I have a huge bust, and there is no way, no how that I am going to wear
turtlenecks. When it's cold, which can be often here in MA, I wear a coat,
sweater and/or scarf until i get to wear I am going.
I envy those with long necks who can wear them.
Lisa

"lgreene" <noth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<dIpgd.41003$OD2.2...@bgtnsc05–news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
Yes, I believe the rule of thumb is a turtleneck on a woman with a
large bust focuses all the attention on that one area. They tend to
make the bust appear even larger than it is also giving it a ski slope
appearance.

On 10/29/04 6:20 AM, in article
dIpgd.41003$OD2.2...@bgtnsc05–news.ops.worldnet.att.net, "lgreene"
<noth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
As someone with a not–well–defined jawline and very round face, I also avoid
turtlenecks. Cowl necks are ok as long as they display the neck (a bit of
clavicle too doesn't hurt). Cheers to those who can wear them, but I only
wear them when snow skiing (i.e. Too cold to give a crap about what I look
like).
ami

i honestly never thought about whether or not they're terribly flattering! i
wear them for warmth. being small, i prefer them not to go up too high, since
they feel like they're choking me, but the cotton cheapies from lands end or
gap kids are fine on me when i'm freezing. i don't like wearing the beautiful
wool ones i see all over, because they're not comfortable around my neck.

Trilby <p...@LOVELYmidway.SPAMuchicago.edu> wrote in message news:<dHzgd.12003$5i5.11...@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
I've got a long neck, long face, and small bust, so turtlenecks are
just fine for me! They make my face look wider and my neck look less
long, which I love. Plus it gets cold here in PA – you need them!

ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
When I wear a turtleneck, it looks like I'm traveling to a country that
quarentines dogs, and I stuffed my beloved dachshund down my shirt front
in order to smuggle it through customs.
I wear turtlenecks anyway. I figure all the little tricks improve one's
appearance only so much. Anyway, it's a trade–off, because while
turtlenecks don't flatter big hooters, they do flatter long necks and
horse faces, both of which I have.
Priscilla
–––
p...@midway.uchicago.edu "Here comes the most beautiful woman in
puppetland!"

I have a huge bust, and there is no way, no how that I am going to wear
turtlenecks. When it's cold, which can be often here in MA, I wear a coat,
sweater and/or scarf until i get to wear I am going.
I envy those with long necks who can wear them.
Lisa
Yes, I believe the rule of thumb is a turtleneck on a woman with a
large bust focuses all the attention on that one area. They tend to
make the bust appear even larger than it is also giving it a ski slope
appearance.
Hee! I, too am large–busted and wear turtlenecks anyway. I don't wear
anything too thin, or I'm approaching "I'LL PUT YOUR EYES OUT WITH ONE
OF THESE" territory, but I think a somewhat fitted turtleneck in a
midweight fabric can look nice without adding bulk. Besides, a couple
years ago, I finally came to the realization that yes, I do have big
breasts, and even though I tried to hide them for years, they're not
going anywhere, so I may as well learn to live with them. A pretty
turtleneck with the right fit looks a million times better than a
bulky, oversized anything, any day of the week.
–Marcia

i also wear turtlenecks quite regularly in the cool weather, and i
am large busted.
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"ethylene" <ethyle...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: > >>I have a huge bust, and there is no way, no how that I am
going to wear
: > >>turtlenecks. When it's cold, which can be often here in MA, I
wear a coat,
: > >>sweater and/or scarf until i get to wear I am going.
: > >>I envy those with long necks who can wear them.
: > >>Lisa
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Yes, I believe the rule of thumb is a turtleneck on a woman
with a
: > > large bust focuses all the attention on that one area. They
tend to
: > > make the bust appear even larger than it is also giving it a
ski slope
: > > appearance.
: >
: > When I wear a turtleneck, it looks like I'm traveling to a
country that
: > quarentines dogs, and I stuffed my beloved dachshund down my
shirt front
: > in order to smuggle it through customs.
: >
: > I wear turtlenecks anyway. I figure all the little tricks
improve one's
: > appearance only so much. Anyway, it's a trade–off, because while
: > turtlenecks don't flatter big hooters, they do flatter long
necks and
: > horse faces, both of which I have.
: >
: > Priscilla
: > –––
: > p...@midway.uchicago.edu "Here comes the most beautiful woman in
: > puppetland!"
::: Hee! I, too am large–busted and wear turtlenecks anyway. I don't
wear
: anything too thin, or I'm approaching "I'LL PUT YOUR EYES OUT WITH
ONE
: OF THESE" territory, but I think a somewhat fitted turtleneck in a
: midweight fabric can look nice without adding bulk. Besides, a
couple
: years ago, I finally came to the realization that yes, I do have
big
: breasts, and even though I tried to hide them for years, they're
not
: going anywhere, so I may as well learn to live with them. A pretty
: turtleneck with the right fit looks a million times better than a
: bulky, oversized anything, any day of the week.
:: –Marcia