Shoes of the opposite sex––what styles/ fashions can't you stand?

I absolutely hate seeing men who wear tassled loafers. I'm really
prejudiced about this. Although I like to see men well–dressed, I can
forgive a lot.
I have one friend whom I still like despite the fact that he owns a
pair of these, but he's sort of an absent–minded professor type. If
the person actually seeks them out, it's just not on.
It's almost a moral thing with me. I see them and I think that
there's something off, no there there.
What about you guys?
Abby

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i call those DOCTOR, DOCTOR SHOES!
seems to be the shoe of favor for BABY BOOMER DOCS!
i like them myself, (tasseled, leather with high shine, *Ethan Allen type* slip–ons) but i believe they scream "dress
up".

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How generous of you. He's a lucky man.
–S./NYC

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That's got to be the first time I've heard that one. I thought wearing
sneakers (trainers in the UK) was almost a standard Summer footwear for
both sexes.
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"Jennifer R." <jr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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my
I love tassled loafer Cole Haans on men. I like them for myself too.
overly
don't

Lady Penelope Creighton–Ward wrote:
Quite the analogy and well, everyone sees a
different shade of red.
I know I don't wear them when working as I require
a minimum casual dress code to at least have a
semi–professional look, but on the weekends, it's
either runners or cowboy boots depending on what
mood I'm in.
Sneakers in the States, runners in Canada &
trainers in the UK...what a strange world we live
in eh ;–)
––
Dennis
http://www.ejacanada.com
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On 28 Aug 2003 00:18:15 –0700, aanv wrote:
Tasseled loafers are positively wretched on any of the genders.

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"Charles Perrin" <c.l.perrin...@att.net> wrote in message
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I think these are beautiful. I love them on guys – http://tinyurl.com/ljwt

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http://tinyurl.com/ljwt
These are even better – http://tinyurl.com/ljx3

Charles Perrin <c.l.perrin...@att.net> wrote in message news:<g5gtkv8kf19nn6mnpc5sv15mu6427i3...@4ax.com>...
I don't think I've ever actually seen a woman wearing tassled loafers.
My Dad did once buy a pair at a thrift store, but they were made in
such a way that he was able to cut them off without ruining the shoe.

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On 28 Aug 2003 00:18:15 –0700, aanv wrote:
I absolutely hate seeing men who wear tassled loafers.
Tasseled loafers are positively wretched on any of the genders.
These are ladies tassled loafers – http://tinyurl.com/lkg9

Abby,
You are in the majority. Though there are people who claim women love tassel
shoes, virtually all of my women friends universally dislike tassel shoes.
Paul

What do you think about women wearing masculine looking clunky shoes?
I hope that we do not have antoher double–standard here! I always wear
womens shoes and sometimes wear women's boots with chunky 3 inch
heels. I get many complements on this look.
Jamie :–)
Fashion Freedom for Men!!
kayper <kar...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<qVv3b.123661$2x.35...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...

My husband's Rockports (ugh) and sandals on men. And I agree that pimp
boots look ridiculous if you're not a pimp.
Lily

p...@midway.uchicago.edu (Trilby) wrote:
I noticed that saddle shoes were not included...
Taffy
––
Girl's classic fashions of the 50s & 60s –– jump.to/taffy
Fashion Site: http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/1492
Doll Album: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292475957
"Growing old is inevitable; growing up is optional..."

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Taffy Cheerful <ta...@cheerful.com> wrote:
I can't say I hate them––because I've never seen anyone wear them. Except
for my mother. She still had her "bobby soxers" pair from the 1940s and
modelled them for me when I was a teenager.
Priscilla
––
p...@midway.uchicago.edu "Here comes the most beautiful woman in puppetland!"

Jamie Johnson wrote:
JJ> I always wear womens shoes and sometimes wear
JJ> women's boots with chunky 3 inch heels. I get
JJ> many complements on this look.
kayper wrote:
k> I think guys who wear high–heel boots of any
k> style look atrocious and embarassing.
k> Particularly if they are a platform style.
High–heel shoes are dangerous. My former female
friend injured her ankle while wearing them.
The high–heel shoes should be designed like the
skate shoes to prevent such injury. Women wearing
high heel shoes cannot run, so they are the
"preferred" victims of street crime. The high–heel
shoes put too much pressure on the toes and some
heels damage the parquet.
More info:
http://www.uams.edu/medcenter/news/mednews_05_08_02_common_foot_problems_feature.htm
http://chealth.canoe.ca/columns.asp?columnistid=6&articleid=1803
http://www.uihealthcare.com/reports/orthopaedicsurgery/020401footproblems.html
We have laws prohibiting the sale of unsafe cars, so
why don't we have laws prohibiting the sale of
unsafe shoes?
====================================================
Lady Penelope Creighton–Ward wrote:
LPC–R> Sneakers in non–athletic situations.
LPC–R> Unless they're those non–athletic sneakers.
There is a big difference between old–fashioned,
light–weight sneakers and modern sport shoes.
I have to wear sport shoes because I have wide
feet and the leather shoes are too narrow for me.
My former male vegetarian friend hates leather shoes
for ethical reasons.

Andrew Nowicki <and...@nospam.com> wrote in
news:3F510E7D.FBBB...@nospam.com:
....
Is this person formerly female, or is he/she formerly your friend?
....
Which is it, male, vegetarian, or friend? Which are they no longer?

Andrew Nowicki wrote:
AN> My former female friend injured her ankle while wearing them.
Userb3 wrote:
U> Is this person formerly female, or is he/she
U> formerly your friend?
She is my former friend and lover. She stole about $120,000 from me.
AN> My former male vegetarian friend hates leather shoes
U> Which is it, male, vegetarian, or friend? Which are they no longer?
He is a former co–worker and GIS expert. I have not
seen him in the past 5 years.
Why does it matter?

Andrew Nowicki <and...@nospam.com> wrote in news:3F5146B9.5BFD6FD...@nospam.com:
Damn. I hate it when that happens.
longer?
Just curious – the original text wasn't clear.

Andrew Nowicki <and...@nospam.com> wrote:
And she injured her ankle? For $120,000, that sounds like woefully
inadequate divine retribution to me (unless they had to amputate...).
Tom Parsons
––
––
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| probably indicates unskilled labor.
http://www.panix.com/~twp | ––John Ciardi

Why DO YOU need to say anything?? How dare you make fun of altfashion women who
have serious health issues. You should be ashamed!!!
Carol

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:48:13 GMT, Vivian wrote:
Other than the ones that use Hotmail or "nob...@nowhere.com"

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It means those that are super nice don't have to work.

Charles Perrin <c.l.perrin...@att.net> wrote:
I absolutely hate seeing men who wear tassled loafers.
Any? Don't you mean, both? Or...never mind.
Tom Parsons
––
––
...@panix.com | Early to bed and early to rise
| probably indicates unskilled labor.
http://www.panix.com/~twp | ––John Ciardi

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:18:57 +0000 (UTC), Tom wrote:
On 28 Aug 2003 00:18:15 –0700, aanv wrote:
I absolutely hate seeing men who wear tassled loafers.
Tasseled loafers are positively wretched on any of the genders.
Kleinfelter Syndrome rides again! <grin/duck>

Charles Perrin wrote:
Since "gender is what is in your head", there are effectively as
many genders as there are people.
But if you're referring to genetic sex there are at least these six.:
XY
XX
XXY (and variants) aka Klinefelter's
XYY (and variants)
X0
XXX
This does not inlucde the "mosaics"
I'm surprised you know about Klinefelters, Charles. Most people
don't.
Veronica
––
Makeup, it takes believing in. Like a magic carpet, it's
belief that makes it fly. Otherwise, it's just a rug. If
you believe in it, makeup has a magic all it's own. Of
course, makeup is only dime–store magic. But it works well
enough, when it's used properly.", the makeup artist, from
the book Sooner or Later, based on the 1978 TV movie of
the same name.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 10:30:19 GMT, Veronica Moonlit wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:18:57 +0000 (UTC), Tom wrote:
Any? Don't you mean, both? Or...never mind.
Kleinfelter Syndrome rides again! <grin/duck>
While I don't work in the medical profession, I probably know the
International Classification of Diseases from 000.0 to 999.9 (too
squeamish to be a doctor/nurse).

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"Veronica Moonlit" <VeronicaMoon...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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Anyone who has ever taken General Biology in college knows about Klinefelter
Syndrome. I was a biology major. Not sure what major Charlie had, but it
is always covered when you study genetics. On the reverse side of your
coin, Veronica, my sister was related to someone (her husband's side of the
family) who was raised female but was actually male.
XO is Turner Syndrome. That means they are missing all or part of the X
chromosome. It does not affect intelligence except it can when it comes to
math, but there can be other physical weaknesses. XO women rarely have
children. A minute percentage do, but XO women are usually never fertile.
XO is just a fluke and usually not thought to be inherited. XO mothers
sometimes produce XO daughters IF they become pregnant at all. Some XO
women have conceived through IVF.
XX=female
XY=male but then there are XXY, and very rare are XXXY and XXXXY. IQ is in
the normal range but it can be a little lower than siblings. Motor
development is slower, but physical growth tends to be faster. Again, this
is not an inherited condtion, just a fluke of nature. Testosterone therapy
is often used to help these people. Sometimes males who have felt female,
after having gone on testosterone therapy, begin to feel like a male and
their life often then begins to feel more normal. Have your doctors
considered this with you, Veronica?
XYY males are usually much taller than their siblings, more active, slower
learning and mature slower.

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"Charles Perrin" <c.l.perrin...@att.net> wrote in message
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Except this time Veronica wins the spelling bee, except she pluralized it
and it isn't. Klinefelter syndrome, not Klinefelter's syndrome. He
discovered it, but did not suffer from it. (g)

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Huronia wrote:
Memo to self – no coffee while reading Huronia!
Judith
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
People get so picky about others and
judgmental. What husband wouldn't
buy his wife something if he committed
adultery
(TY "I")

It seems like trolls love to use aol accounts. Is there anyway I can filter
out all aol users?

In article <13o5b.147513$_V.53...@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
some...@microsoft.com says...
That depends on what news reader that you use.
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"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Klinefelter
the
to
in
this
therapy
Oh, btw, forgot to mention the XXX aka Triple X Syndrome. These females
tend to be taller than siblings, slower motor, speech development, IQ lower
than siblings and you often see dyslexia in those with Triple X Syndrome.
Fertility ususally normal, but puberty usually delayed and could have
fertility problems. Sometimes have a smaller than normal head. Again a
fluke of nature.

"Carol" <carolc...@aol.combyespam> wrote in message
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Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
Bad Karma, for sure.
Karen

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Frayed wrote:
As my grandmother used to say
"they are only cursing themselves"
Judith
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
People get so picky about others and
judgmental. What husband wouldn't
buy his wife something if he committed
adultery
(TY "I")

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"Carol" <carolc...@aol.combyespam> wrote in message
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Carol wrote:
Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
If given the choice between being a self–centered braggart living in a
McMansion and making up "friends" on the Internet because no one
in their right mind wanted to have anything to do with me in real life
and having Lupus, I'd opt for the Lupus any day.
Yeah, I'm moon–faced and can't fit into a size 4 – but I have caring
friends and a wonderful family. I'm the one with wealth that matters!
Judith
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
People get so picky about others and
judgmental. What husband wouldn't
buy his wife something if he committed
adultery
(TY "I")

Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
rock on judith. between the lupus and tourette comments, it's a wonder that
anyone with any illness in their family still feels comfortable posting here.

And to think that all of the message below could have been avoided if
someone had just said "either" instead of "any."


"Huronia" <Huro...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Michele317 wrote:
Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
Why DO YOU need to say anything?? How dare you make fun of
altfashion women who have serious health issues. You should be
ashamed!!!
Carol
X–No–archive: yes
Carol wrote:
Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
Why DO YOU need to say anything?? How dare you make fun of
altfashion women who have serious health issues. You should be
ashamed!!!
Carol
If given the choice between being a self–centered braggart living in
a McMansion and making up "friends" on the Internet because no one
in their right mind wanted to have anything to do with me in real
life
and having Lupus, I'd opt for the Lupus any day.
Yeah, I'm moon–faced and can't fit into a size 4 – but I have caring
friends and a wonderful family. I'm the one with wealth that
matters!
I suspect most prople quickly learn who to kkkillfile.
Judith (rocking on)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
People get so picky about others and
judgmental. What husband wouldn't
buy his wife something if he committed
adultery
(TY "I")

On 02 Sep 2003 14:54:15 GMT, Michele317 wrote:
Nobody makes cutesy comments about interstital cystitis, other than
"if it comes from a BEECH tree, why do they call the stuff I take
'ELMiron?'"

She should be ashamed! Just because they have "serious health issues" does
NOT excuse their behavior! Get real!


"Carol" <carolc...@aol.combyespam> wrote in message
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: >Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
:: Why DO YOU need to say anything?? How dare you make fun of altfashion
women who
: have serious health issues. You should be ashamed!!!
:: Carol
:::

Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady, Tourette Ellen and Spaz
Randee didn't need to even post...
(not sure what affliction Randee has but the other two FOR SURE are right.)


"Pennyaline" <nsmitch...@oopsididitagain.net> wrote in message
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: And to think that all of the message below could have been avoided if
: someone had just said "either" instead of "any."


:::: "Huronia" <Huro...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:WQJ4b.6321$Kj.273...@news20.bellglobal.com...
: >


: > "KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
: > news:bivouj$d3h2...@ID–203179.news.uni–berlin.de...
: > > x–no–archive: yes
: > > http://tinyurl.com/ldxt


: > > "KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
: > > news:bivnib$dlar...@ID–203179.news.uni–berlin.de...
: > > > x–no–archive: yes
: > > > http://tinyurl.com/ldxt


: > > > "Veronica Moonlit" <VeronicaMoon...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
: > > > news:%cF4b.321428$Ho3.46...@sccrnsc03...
: > > > > Charles Perrin wrote:
: > > > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:18:57 +0000 (UTC), Tom wrote:
: > > > > >
: > > > > >
: > > > > >>Charles Perrin <c.l.perrin...@att.net> wrote:
: > > > > >
: > > > > >
: > > > > >>>On 28 Aug 2003 00:18:15 –0700, aanv wrote:
: > > > > >
: > > > > >
: > > > > >>>>I absolutely hate seeing men who wear tassled loafers.
: > > > > >
: > > > > >
: > > > > >>>Tasseled loafers are positively wretched on any of the genders.
: > > > > >
: > > > > >
: > > > > >>Any? Don't you mean, both? Or...never mind.
: > > > > >
: > > > > >
: > > > > > Kleinfelter Syndrome rides again! <grin/duck>
: > > > > >
: > > > >
: > > > > Since "gender is what is in your head", there are effectively as
: > > > > many genders as there are people.
: > > > >
: > > > > But if you're referring to genetic sex there are at least these
: six.:
: > > > >
: > > > > XY
: > > > > XX
: > > > > XXY (and variants) aka Klinefelter's
: > > > > XYY (and variants)
: > > > > X0
: > > > > XXX
: > > > >
: > > > > This does not inlucde the "mosaics"
: > > > >
: > > > > I'm surprised you know about Klinefelters, Charles. Most people
: > > > > don't.
: > > >
: > > > Anyone who has ever taken General Biology in college knows about
: > > Klinefelter
: > > > Syndrome. I was a biology major. Not sure what major Charlie had,
: but
: > it
: > > > is always covered when you study genetics. On the reverse side of
: your
: > > > coin, Veronica, my sister was related to someone (her husband's side
: of
: > > the
: > > > family) who was raised female but was actually male.
: > > > XO is Turner Syndrome. That means they are missing all or part of
the
: X
: > > > chromosome. It does not affect intelligence except it can when it
: comes
: > > to
: > > > math, but there can be other physical weaknesses. XO women rarely
: have
: > > > children. A minute percentage do, but XO women are usually never
: > fertile.
: > > > XO is just a fluke and usually not thought to be inherited. XO
: mothers
: > > > sometimes produce XO daughters IF they become pregnant at all. Some
: XO
: > > > women have conceived through IVF.
: > > > XX=female
: > > > XY=male but then there are XXY, and very rare are XXXY and XXXXY.
IQ
: is
: > > in
: > > > the normal range but it can be a little lower than siblings. Motor
: > > > development is slower, but physical growth tends to be faster.
Again,
: > > this
: > > > is not an inherited condtion, just a fluke of nature. Testosterone
: > > therapy
: > > > is often used to help these people. Sometimes males who have felt
: > female,
: > > > after having gone on testosterone therapy, begin to feel like a male
: and
: > > > their life often then begins to feel more normal. Have your doctors
: > > > considered this with you, Veronica?
: > > > XYY males are usually much taller than their siblings, more active,
: > slower
: > > > learning and mature slower.
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > > Oh, btw, forgot to mention the XXX aka Triple X Syndrome. These
females
: > > tend to be taller than siblings, slower motor, speech development, IQ
: > lower
: > > than siblings and you often see dyslexia in those with Triple X
: Syndrome.
: > > Fertility ususally normal, but puberty usually delayed and could have
: > > fertility problems. Sometimes have a smaller than normal head. Again
a: > > fluke of nature.
: > >
: >
: > I guess you have KKK Syndrome!!!
: >
: > Huronia (coulda been a geneticist)
: >
: >
::

???? Perhaps you can explain this Karma thing to me?


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:: "Carol" <carolc...@aol.combyespam> wrote in message
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: > >Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
: >
: > Why DO YOU need to say anything?? How dare you make fun of altfashion
women who
: > have serious health issues. You should be ashamed!!!
: >
: > Carol
: >
: Bad Karma, for sure.
: Karen
::

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Laura, Ignore it. If you said you liked pink shoes, they'd say you are
racist against black shoes. They are trolls, ignore, ignore, ignore.
We have been hanging pictures and mirrors this morning. Our picture and
mirror hanger guy was here and he just left. He is so funny and definitely
good for my ego. Peter just laughs as this guy is going gah gah over me.
It's so funny. Peter said, "even when we went to the other house, he
couldn't quit talking about how great looking you are." hehe. He is a
construction worker around here and he said he used to work with that Evan
Marriot guy, evidently Evan (Joe Millionaire) was a construction worker here
in my neighborhood. Heck, I never saw him. Evan said Orange County was too
stuck up for him but that in LA he was king, hehe. He also made way more
than $19,000.00 a year. Pfft, why they make this stuff up, I will never
know.

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"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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That of course is just a joke because both Laura and I don't work. ;–)
Argh, this AF fighting is soooooooooo silly.

"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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definitely
here
too
I'll tell you, Kathy – it's not your money that bothers me, it's your
idleness.
A lot of us on here are fairly comfortable, but you alienate yourself
because you think no one else has anything – which really shows how
self–centred you are.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the COTTAGES in this area are larger
than your house – with huge lawns!
If you have all the money you claim – why not do some good with it – or
volunteer your time or something instead of plinking away on newsgroups all
day. What a friggin waste!
Huronia (I'm much prettier than you too)

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"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
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well....
but
Thank you. Now I won't see it. I do believe she lays in wait and that is
stalkerish.
creepy
She is ill, but the responsiblity lies with her to seek help. She will
always find someone who makes her feel insecure until she works on herself.

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"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
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I must have good karma, because my life keeps getting better. No one's life
is perfect though, that is a given. Life's trials help us build character.

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"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
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well....
but
creepy
She needs to watch today's edition of Dr. Phil.

"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Into the Google archives with you too, Kathy, so people can see how nice you
are...
Huronia

you're in the google archives ellen! (huronia, blondie, ladyhawke) And I
made sure you'd stay there.......


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:: "KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: > x–no–archive: yes
: > http://tinyurl.com/ldxt


: > "laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
: > news:IQO4b.56881$0u4.11...@news1.central.cox.net...
: > > I think Huronia sits at her computer waiting for one of us to post so
: she
: > > can say something nasty! I am going to killfile her because she is
: > well....
: > > she is honestly sick and that is scary. I am not making fun of
Tourettes
: > but
: > > Ellen/Huronia.
: > > She is psycho, Tourettes or no Tourettes.I'm pretty sure she is
: housebound
: > > and so full of meds that she doesn't know whether she's coming or
going
: or
: > > if she went and is already back......Don't reply to her, Kathy! She's
: > creepy
: > > acting......
: >
: > She needs to watch today's edition of Dr. Phil.
: >
:: Into the Google archives with you too, Kathy, so people can see how nice
you
: are...
:: Huronia
::

...@$!! arf arf arf
http://www.seroquel.com
HTH

"Huronia" wrote
Hey!?! You're a Canadian?? Do you know Bob? ;–)
Blushun
(also a Canuck)
––
The smaller the mind the greater the conceit.
Aesop (620 BC – 560 BC)

"KM" wrote
: Laura, please ignore this new person Bobbie. ALWAYS check for the AOL
account with a new name. This is another new name with an aol account and
undoubtedly our AOL troll of many names.
Sorry! I couldn't ignore......I know it is the troll of many names....I
imagine we'll be seeing all kinds of new ones pop up......lol

"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:IQO4b.56881$0u4.11...@news1.central.cox.net...
well....
but
creepy
issues"
are
and
a worker
was
never
There! Let me help you get all that in the Google archives for the benefit
of future posters.
You're a lousy Googler too....
Huronia

"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<bUO4b.56905$0u4.8...@news1.central.cox.net>...
Some of you are wealthy, some are less wealthy, some are strong and
healthy, others are disabled and so forth. There are many differences
amongst living beings and even more so there are differences between
animals and human beings.
These differences are due to karma.
What we all share – desire, ill–will and ignorance – are common to all
living beings, but the particular condition in which we find ourselves
is the result of our particular karma that conditions the situation in
which we find ourselves, the situation in which we may be wealthy,
strong and so forth.
These circumstances are decided by karma. It is in this sense that
karma explains the differences amongst living beings. It explains why
some beings are fortunate while others are less fortunate, some are
happy while others are less happy.
The Buddha has specifically stated that karma explains the differences
between living beings.
It is karma that explains the circumstances that living beings find
themselves in.
It is quite often the case that we find people misunderstanding the
idea of karma. This is particularly true in our daily casual use of
the term. We find people saying that one cannot change one’s
situation because of one’s karma. In this sense, karma becomes a
sort of escape. It becomes similar to predestination or fatalism. This
is emphatically not the correct understanding of karma. It is possible
that this misunderstanding of karma has come about because of the
popular idea that we have about luck and fate. It may be for this
reason that our idea of karma has become overlaid in popular thought
with the notion of predestination. Karma is not fate or
predestination.
You are what you are because of YOUR actions – not anyone else's.
You create your own karma. You are your thoughts. At this moment you
are the result of what you were thinking the previous moment.

"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Umm....maybe because out of a newsgroup of hundreds, only Kathy likes you?
Does this not seem unbalanced and odd to you?
Have you ever considered that you come across as being extremely miserable??
Huronia (no statistician, but there is a clear pattern here)

ok Huronia please! !!shoot darn fudge, umm, excuse me,
you are a joke. And a bad one at that....@$!! arf arf arf
(what? ok, lol...)...Darn those voices! Anyhow, what I was saying is grow
up.Go play with your friends:)))))


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:: "KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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:: I am exactly where I want
: > to be in life
:: That would be – sitting on your ass typing superlatives about yourself!
:: If you're so great, where's all your friends?
::: Huronia
::

Ruud, thanks for explaining. So if I am healthy and very fortunate in life
and happy it is because of good karma? I seriously don't understand the
karma thing.Someone told me earlier in this post that I have bad karma and
I'm not sure why they would say this.


"ruud" <sennasatio...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: "laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
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: > "KM" <kthyn...@aol.com> wrote in message
: > news:bj09ad$dpvq...@ID–203179.news.uni–berlin.de...
: > : x–no–archive: yes
: > : http://tinyurl.com/ldxt


: > : "laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
: > : news:aKM4b.56715$0u4.11...@news1.central.cox.net...
: > : > ???? Perhaps you can explain this Karma thing to me?
: > :
: > : It means those that are super nice don't have to work.
: > :
: > : LMAO!! OH! lol lol lol
: > I think that I have good karma.Very good!
:: Some of you are wealthy, some are less wealthy, some are strong and
: healthy, others are disabled and so forth. There are many differences
: amongst living beings and even more so there are differences between
: animals and human beings.
:: These differences are due to karma.
:: What we all share – desire, ill–will and ignorance – are common to all
: living beings, but the particular condition in which we find ourselves
: is the result of our particular karma that conditions the situation in
: which we find ourselves, the situation in which we may be wealthy,
: strong and so forth.
:: These circumstances are decided by karma. It is in this sense that
: karma explains the differences amongst living beings. It explains why
: some beings are fortunate while others are less fortunate, some are
: happy while others are less happy.
:: The Buddha has specifically stated that karma explains the differences
: between living beings.
:: It is karma that explains the circumstances that living beings find
: themselves in.
:: It is quite often the case that we find people misunderstanding the
: idea of karma. This is particularly true in our daily casual use of
: the term. We find people saying that one cannot change one’s
: situation because of one’s karma. In this sense, karma becomes a
: sort of escape. It becomes similar to predestination or fatalism. This
: is emphatically not the correct understanding of karma. It is possible
: that this misunderstanding of karma has come about because of the
: popular idea that we have about luck and fate. It may be for this
: reason that our idea of karma has become overlaid in popular thought
: with the notion of predestination. Karma is not fate or
: predestination.
:: You are what you are because of YOUR actions – not anyone else's.
:: You create your own karma. You are your thoughts. At this moment you
: are the result of what you were thinking the previous moment.

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: "laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:aKM4b.56715$0u4.11...@news1.central.cox.net...
: > ???? Perhaps you can explain this Karma thing to me?
:
: It means those that are super nice don't have to work.
:
: LMAO!! OH! lol lol lol
I think that I have good karma.Very good!
That is true and could transcend every religion. I am exactly where I want
to be in life and I know if I decided I wanted to be someplace else, I alone
would be the one who has to take those actions.

"Sodalis" <sodali...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: >Subject: Re: OT/Karma
: >From: "laura" laura...@cox.net
: >Date: 9/1/03 10:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time
: >Message–id: <wzT4b.57759$0u4.9...@news1.central.cox.net>
:: ...@$!! arf arf arf
: >(what? ok, lol...)...Darn those voices!
:: http://www.seroquel.com
:: HTH
I wish Huronia would take the other 20 meds she has been prescribed and
leave normal people alone.......

The Rx is for you.
For further assistance please contact
http://www.tpmhmr.org/
http://www.mhmr.state.tx.us/hospitals/bigspringsh/
HTH

On 02 Sep 2003 03:08:49 GMT, Sodalis wrote:
And if you're going to use words like that around here, I only have
one thing to say:
http://www.risperdal.com/files/risperdal.pdf
Take that!
http://www.ortho–mcneil.com/products/pi/haldol.pdf
And that!
http://www.pfizer.com/download/uspi_geodon.pdf
And that!
<grin/duck>

"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
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this
I think you need to go back to Google school. I don't have Tourette's
Syndrome. Even if I did, this is certainly not the place to discuss it.
You're way off track, making assumptions, as well as complete ass of
yourself.
Huronia

Yes, Huronia. YOU do have it. You posted as Blondie. Your name is Ellen. You
live in Canada. Whirlbat gave it away....They know you in there. I
asked......


"Huronia" <Huro...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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:: "laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:4RT4b.57932$0u4.12...@news1.central.cox.net...
: > This is what Huronia said to someone. Really explains the nastiness in
: this
: > thread.....Maybe she ate a bunch of cookies while staying up late this
: > weekend.........
: >
:: I think you need to go back to Google school. I don't have Tourette's
: Syndrome. Even if I did, this is certainly not the place to discuss it.
:: You're way off track, making assumptions, as well as complete ass of
: yourself.
:: Huronia
::

"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
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You
Sorry, wrong Canadian. There's 25 million of us, you know......
Huronia

Whatever.Whirlbat gave it away blondie. I guess you messed up when you used
it. lol. Anyhow, some of your "friends" are lurking from AST and they say
they can prove you are the same Huronia/Blondie/Ellen......


"Huronia" <Huro...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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:: "laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:RaU4b.58164$0u4.54...@news1.central.cox.net...
: > Yes, Huronia. YOU do have it. You posted as Blondie. Your name is Ellen.
: You
: > live in Canada. Whirlbat gave it away....They know you in there. I
: > asked......
: >
: Sorry, wrong Canadian. There's 25 million of us, you know......
:: Huronia
::

X–No–archive: yes
Huronia wrote:
KKKrap cut
Which begs the question, has anyone seen KKKathy in real life?
What does she *really* look like in person?
Judith (pondering improbables)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
People get so picky about others and
judgmental. What husband wouldn't
buy his wife something if he committed
adultery
(TY "I")

"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<8BS4b.57207$0u4.35...@news1.central.cox.net>...
Your statement and your making fun of sick people probably prompted that
comment, I am guessing. You can't be happy and ridicule people at the
same time; it's incongruous.
Bobbie
Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
Why DO YOU need to say anything?? How dare you make fun of altfashion women who
have serious health issues. You should be ashamed!!!
Carol

"laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<8BS4b.57207$0u4.35...@news1.central.cox.net>...
Your statement and your making fun of sick people probably prompted that
comment, I am guessing. You can't be happy and ridicule people at the
same time; it's incongruous.
Bobbie
Why did they even need to say anything ? LupusLady,
Why DO YOU need to say anything?? How dare you make fun of altfashion women who
have serious health issues. You should be ashamed!!!
Carol

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"Bobbie Fleckman" <bobbieFleckm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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news:<8BS4b.57207$0u4.35...@news1.central.cox.net>...
Ruud, thanks for explaining. So if I am healthy and very fortunate in
life
and happy it is because of good karma? I seriously don't understand the
karma thing.Someone told me earlier in this post that I have bad karma
and
I'm not sure why they would say this.
Laura, please ignore this new person Bobbie. ALWAYS check for the AOL
account with a new name. This is another new name with an aol account and
undoubtedly our AOL troll of many names. You know you were only standing up
against someone who was being mean and it had nothing to do with her
illness, it had to do with her using her illness as an excuse to be mean.
Please, please, please, every person who tries to provoke you who has never
posted here before, check to see if it is an AOL account before responding
to it. They want to provoke you so you will look like a troll. Stay on
topic so these trolls can be revealed for who they are. This person has
nothing better to do than stalk posters of AF and harass and try to provoke
them. Don't even respond to my post, just ignore this off topic crap from
these AOL trolls or anonymous accounts and tell me about your clothes and
makeup.
You are not the troll, you are merely aggravated by people on here who get
mean. That is very admirable.
The best way that you can show them who the trolls are is to ignore the
trolls. It doesn't matter what the trolls think or say. There will always
be people like this in the world who look for fault. Hang in there, girl
and ignore them. Ignore Rogow, Kris, Huronia all the ones who try to
provoke.

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"Blushun" <blus...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Blushun, you are usually above these smartass posts. Laura wondered why
Huronia was so mean to me, which I appreciate Laura's intent in defending
me, in spite of the fact that she is making enemies by sticking up for me,
so she googled Huronia's whirl...@sympatico.ca email address and discovered
that Huronia admitted to raging at people for no reason and she blamed it on
her illness. Sorry, but I don't think illness is an excuse for being mean,
BUT, I for one appreciate knowing this as it helps me to be a bit more
understanding of where Huronia aka Ellen, is coming from.
I sometimes catch Dr. Phil on TV and yesterday he had a segment on bullying.
He said those that don't stick up against people who bully are guilty of
doing it too. Laura's actions show me that she has 0 tolerance for bullying
and is selfless in that she isn't even considering herself when she is
sticking up for me. For her sake, I wish she would just ignore the trolls,
but it arouses her righteous indignation so she can't help it. Me being on
here longer than she has been has shown me that talking to these people does
no good, but what you have to do is ignore them. I think Laura is seeing
that is also the case.
Please Blushun, stay above this like you usually do because the more
smartass posts there are, the more off topic AF stays.
Thanks for considering this.
Kathy

"Bobbie Fleckman" <bobbieFleckm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: "laura" <laura...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:<8BS4b.57207$0u4.35...@news1.central.cox.net>...
: > Ruud, thanks for explaining. So if I am healthy and very fortunate in
life
: > and happy it is because of good karma? I seriously don't understand the
: > karma thing.Someone told me earlier in this post that I have bad karma
and
: > I'm not sure why they would say this.
:: Your statement and your making fun of sick people probably prompted that
: comment, I am guessing. You can't be happy and ridicule people at the
: same time; it's incongruous.
: Bobbie
:: ummmm. Yes I can. If someone with healthy issues is ridiculing me then why
does it make me a mean person to jab back at them? I think they are not only
mean–BUT they also have illnesses. That does not give them an extra right to
be nasty. Just because someone has lupus it's ok to be cruel?
I am so sick of people that can dish it out but not take it.
OK, So Judith is moon faced (her words)and has a horrible rash patch on her
face.Does that give her a free ticket to act ugly? I don't think so. I do
have compassion for sick people.
But not sick people with nasty attitudes! But I'll admit I don't have
compassion for people who bring it on themselves.....

"Michele317" <michele...@aol.combover> wrote in message
news:20030904093616.26686.00000...@mb–m26.aol.com...
It seems like trolls love to use aol accounts. Is there anyway I can
filter
out all aol users?
figure
doing
LOL! Sorry, I didn't mean to offend all aol users.
Actually, I tried to filter out "aol.com" using Outlook Express and it ended
up kilfiling almost 1/3 of all messages. Geesh.
So, I'm just going to do it the hard way and kilfile one account at a time.
My apologies for any offense. I had no bad intentions.

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"Vivian" <some...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:R7J5b.375849$4UE.191...@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
ended
time.
The best thing to do is killfile and not discuss it. When you do discuss
it, it adds to the roar and makes one seem trollish by announcing it. I
don't mean any offense by this so I hope none is taken.

X–No–archive: yes
danielle wrote:
Unfortunately, dumping all AOL posters would mean never seeing
some of the nicest and most knowledgable people here. Perhaps
simply kkkillfiling those who come here only to brag, repost old
googled threads, and make wild claims would do?
Alas – perhaps not – since those posters have constantly morphing
AOL IDs. Ah well, it was an idea.
Judith (BTW – to killfile me, simply filter the name Rogow – I use no other)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For her sake, I wish she would just ignore the trolls,
but it arouses her righteous indignation so she can't help it. Me
being on here longer than she has been has shown me that talking to
these people does no good, but what you have to do is ignore them.
("KKK in 'nice' mode" – TY "I")

Frayed wrote:
And I do as well. I have some very good friends
who use AOL and obviously one posts here, but many
don't.
In fact, AOL is a great isp no matter what the
jokes are about it. I tried it on a trial basis
but didn't continue for reasons not related to
their service.
Killfile a domain and you'll miss a lot of posts
that someday you might wish you hadn't (Google
reposts I mean).
If you're using a Windows machine, use
Gravity...and if you need help to do so...
I'm on a Mac right now with Netscape, but my
preferred newsreader for Macs is Halime.
––
Dennis
http://www.ejacanada.com
Remove 'Elle–Kabong' to reply

This works.....
Below is a guide to getting bad people out of your news group.
Highlight their message.
Right Click on it.
then Properties.
then Message Source.
Copy this to a New Message ( Ctrl–a then Ctrl–c then Ctrl–v in the new
message)
Now add the message below to your new message so they know why you sent it.
________________________________________________________________
This member of AOL has been harassing and using profanity to many members
of this news group.
As per your TOS, please terminate his access through your service.
________________________________________________________________
Now send it to all of these email address;
for AOL Trolls
ab...@aol.com
n...@aol.com
postmas...@aol.com

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"Charles Perrin" <c.l.perrin...@att.net> wrote in message
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Ironically I took my 12 units of General Biology at an Engineering school.

Veronica, please ignore her if you can. The poster who offended you is an
aggressive moron who enjoys violating California's Medical Practice Act at
every possible opportunity. She seems to think that because her father used to
be a doctor she is qualified to diagnose and treat people via the internet.
Practicing medicine without a license is a felony under California law no
matter who her dad is, or her husband for that matter.

"RN" <resnih...@aol.com> wrote in message
: Veronica, please ignore her if you can. The poster who offended you is an
: aggressive moron who enjoys violating California's Medical Practice Act at
: every possible opportunity. She seems to think that because her father
used to
: be a doctor she is qualified to diagnose and treat people via the
internet.
: Practicing medicine without a license is a felony under California law no
: matter who her dad is, or her husband for that matter.
As IF she's really practicing or diagnosing anything! Get real.
This is the most idiotic statement I have ever heard a troll say! Please
come up with something better! And please tell me that you're not a real RN.
LMAO! You sound like a "real nut" to me........

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 02:05:21 GMT, Veronica Moonlit
<VeronicaMoon...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Hey Veronica, tried to email you but Yahoo was playing me up and I
don't think it got through, so I'll just briefly say here: you make a
valuable contribution to AF and don't ever doubt it. It would be a
poorer place without you, and I'm sure you make it a little bit more
comfortable for several other people too.
––
m a u d i e
Maudie's "when I feel like it" services:
Posting stats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/af_geeks/
(latest date: August 31st 2003 including month's totals)
Lemming Lists http://uk.geocities.com/maud_silver/

I am so glad to know someone else does this, Maude. If I break one nail, they
all have to go. I can't stand having one nail broken. My sister and a few
friends think I am daft for doing this. –– Beck

KM wrote:
Kathy, why didn't you just fly to Illinois, slap me in the face
and say, "Get some testosterone in you and act like a real man."
This is how it felt:
SLAP. What do you think you're doing wearing LBD's
SLAP Real men don't like Hello Kitty.
SLAP What do you think you're doing buying makeup, you're pathetic.
This post made me cry and it made me feel ashamed for crying.
Sure you didn't post this with malice aforethought, but still.
You "know" I have self esteem issues, did you think this would help?
I do not like the way you used "normal" for that implies that I
am abnormal which I consider to be derogatory. Perhaps I am
being overly sensitive b I think with all the personal demons,
self doubt, stress, fear and frustration that I have to put up
with I deserve to get angry/mad/sad when this sort of thing happens.
You also made the assumption that I am intersexed. I am, but
that was something you shouldn't have assumed. I don't know
which syndrome I just have certain symptoms.. My doctor said
when I aksed about it said I could be tested but would it really
make that much of a difference. And he told me that such testing
is expensive. I don't have health insurance. I can't even
afford to see a real "gender specialist".
I've always felt that AF was a "safe zone" where I could "let
down my hair" as it were, and now this.
Veronica
––
Makeup, it takes believing in. Like a magic carpet, it's
belief that makes it fly. Otherwise, it's just a rug. If
you believe in it, makeup has a magic all it's own. Of
course, makeup is only dime–store magic. But it works well
enough, when it's used properly.", the makeup artist, from
the book Sooner or Later, based on the 1978 TV movie of
the same name.

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