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I am ashamed? But am I alone, that is the question...

beautyc...@aol.comnospam (Beauty Cafe)
Last night we had a pretty rough storm pass through the area...no cable modem,
no cable tv...although we did have electricity...so I did the AF black out
sorta thing....cleaned and organized my makeup.
I went through all my draws, cabinets, bags and what not and put my lipsticks,
glosses, balms etc into two small Sephora bags. TWO SMALL SEPHORA BAGS!! Both
filled to the top.
Then I took all my eyeshadows and blushes and tossed them into one shared small
Sephora bag.
Leaving only brushes and my collection of powder foundations in my makeup
drawer...by this time Dave was bored and came in to see what I had found to do
with myself. He looked at me, shook his head and said WTF is all this? Uh years
and years of collecting and being one of Neiman's best customers? Had I been a
dog, my tail would have been between my legs as though I had been caught red
handed.
He laughed at me and said well how come you haven't been buying stuff since
I've been around. I stopped and looked at him and thought about it...and
thought about it...and felt ashamed that I here I sat on the floor with all
these lipsticks, probably hundreds of dollars worth, I won't dare say
thousand's of dollars, and said I guess I just don't need it all anymore? Good
answer he said...you don't need all that stuff, I love you. (and then spoken
like a true man) Besides you only wear the ones in your purse anyway..and with
that he walked out of the bathroom. Leaving me with my junk.
I've still been dwelling on this and I guess that perhaps while I never thought
about it before...perhaps, JUST perhaps...all this was some form of release
from what I thought had been a happy marriage with boxster boy. If I had the
prettier lipstick, if I looked better, etc....etc? I never thought that I was a
shopaholic back then, but staring at all this in my face, I guess I was. I can
say honestly, that the past three years I've not been at all...if anything,
I've become quite the opposite.
So I made a vow, to go through all this stuff on a daily basis...toss out what
is really, really old and then wear a different lipstick everyday and if it
doesn't work, then out it goes. I thought about donating, but too many have
been used and it's just not sanitary at this point.
A true confession from a reformed shopaholic who didn't even know it.
Love, laughter and friendship
Lisa in Dallas
www.beautycafe.com
rbee...@aol.comnospam (Rbeezer)
First of all, your man is a winner. Second of all, I had a similar experience
last week wrt throwing out stuff. I looked long and hard at my two boxes of
makeup (I actually had two tool boxes that I was using for makeup kits) and
realized something. I only used the makeup in my small cosmetic bag.
I've been throwing out stuff ever since. I feel like I don't need it as much
anymore. Not that I'm prettier, but I'm more ME, you know? I'm wearing less,
but I'm being smarter about what I wear and use. And I don't need all those
extras that I bought for all those faces I used to put on. So out went powders,
and eyeshadows, lipsticks and lipliners. A bit everyday is the key. You need to
do it when you're in the right mood.
Now my perfumes are another story. ;–)
I've still been dwelling on this and I guess that perhaps while I never
thought
about it before...perhaps, JUST perhaps...all this was some form of release
from what I thought had been a happy marriage with boxster boy. If I had the
prettier lipstick, if I looked better, etc....etc? I never thought that I was
ashopaholic back then, but staring at all this in my face, I guess I was. I
can
say honestly, that the past three years I've not been at all...if anything,
I've become quite the opposite.
So I made a vow, to go through all this stuff on a daily basis...toss out
what
is really, really old and then wear a different lipstick everyday and if it
doesn't work, then out it goes. I thought about donating, but too many have
been used and it's just not sanitary at this point.
A true confession from a reformed shopaholic who didn't even know it
AEB:http://pub208.ezboard.com/baeb
Rasta Poodle <HELLOherbl...@newsguy.com>
On 27 Aug 2003 17:14:58 GMT, beautyc...@aol.comnospam (Beauty Cafe)
wrote:
<snipped Lisa's true confession/epiphany>
A true confession from a reformed shopaholic who didn't even know it.
Lisa,
Your guy sounds very wise and very sweet. Funny how an episode like
you had with the 'pile o' stuff' caused an epiphany. Your memories of
shopping to fill a void are very telling. In psychology, shopping,
especially shopaholic shopping, is known to be a stress–reliever.
Sadly, the bills can cause more stress when they come in. I've seen
many unhappy women on TV, on shows like Oprah's, showing their bulging
closets and cosmetics areas, packed sky high with stuff they'll
probably never use, in thousands of $$$ of debt, looking for help.
Hope your revelation and support from your guy will stay with you. :–)
(I'm a confirmed non–shopper, so I guess that means I'm pretty
stress–free , LOL) I think it was Val189 who wrote here in the past
about being ashamed if the executors of her estate were to go through
her belongings and find 'piles 'o stuff' stashed away. She made a vow
not to buy anything new, so she could use up her stash. Sounds pretty
stress–free to me, too.
––
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"Beauty Cafe" <beautyc...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Last night we had a pretty rough storm pass through the area...no cable
modem,
no cable tv...although we did have electricity...so I did the AF black out
sorta thing....cleaned and organized my makeup.
I went through all my draws, cabinets, bags and what not and put my
lipsticks,
glosses, balms etc into two small Sephora bags. TWO SMALL SEPHORA BAGS!!
Both
filled to the top.
Then I took all my eyeshadows and blushes and tossed them into one shared
small
Sephora bag.
Leaving only brushes and my collection of powder foundations in my makeup
drawer...by this time Dave was bored and came in to see what I had found
to do
with myself. He looked at me, shook his head and said WTF is all this?
Well, after I told him to shut up, I would go scrutinize his collection of
whatever, hahaha.
"Stevie" <privil...@charter1.net>
guilty as charged. *gulp* I really don't buy much but I still *buy* stuff
I love enabling.. it's cheaper and it's still "thrilling"
Stevie
"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com>
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"melizabeth" <chris1...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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Lisa, what a great story. I think at one time or another many of us have
fallen into that cycle of "if I looked better", or "perhaps this type of
shoe will do it". I have gone into shopping remission as well. I think I
am a reformed shopaholic also...but darn it...those shoes!
I don't do the, "if I looked better" routine, I go, "wow, that's so pretty,
I havtahavit." Hehe.
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>
Lisa
Life has become so much better for you so don't be ashamed. Your
circumstances
have changed and Dave is such a keeper. Take what's useful and unwanted and
donate it to a teen or women's shelter. Toss whatever you don't want.
Before I was married I was really a shopaholic. I am actually better now,
but as you
know, I still shop a lot. There are always new products and colors. What I
have
learned is not to stockpile as many items that are duplicates. I love what
I buy and
want to use what I buy. Every so often I realize I can't use an entire tube
of lipstick
or a new bar of soap every day of the year. That would be wrong. That's
when I
go through my stuff to sort, discard and give away.
You are not alone, but one thing I must say is you are a great person and
your life
keeps getting better.
Audrey
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"Beauty Cafe" <beautyc...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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<< You are not alone, but one thing I must say is you are a great person
and
your life
keeps getting better. >><BR><BR>
Thank you and everyone...I guess as Rasta said it really was an eye
awakening
experience for me.
I'm going to go through them much better and see if any of them are
donatable.
Donate them to a battered women's organization.
"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com>
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"o3" <> wrote in message
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However I have to admit, I would be very offended if a
boyfriend opined or questioned the amount/character of my "collection."
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This is my opinion too. I am probably too assertive for my own good. I
used to see my mother hide her purchases from my dad and I swore I would
never do this when I grew up and I don't. I am sure who I am was formed a
lot by my parents. I saw hurdles they went through and swore it wouldn't
happen to me. When I was in first grade a little girl told me my mother was
fat (she was probably all of 130 pounds at 5'5") and from that day on, I was
obsessed not to be fat.
If something even smells of trying to control me, I rebel.
kayper <kar...@comcast.net>
Stevie wrote:
guilty as charged. *gulp* I really don't buy much but I still *buy* stuff
I love enabling.. it's cheaper and it's still "thrilling"
Stevie
Same here. It *is* a comfort, much like listening to my
Nat "King" Cole "The Christmas Song" CD throughout the entire
year. I only wish I could coax DH into indulging his "shopping"
urges a little more often. Of course, they would involve
CompUSA or some other gadget–ridden store or catalog, but whatever
it takes to scratch the itch saves time and money in the long run.
p...@midway.uchicago.edu (Trilby)
In article <20030827131458.28589.00000...@mb–m03.aol.com>,
Beauty Cafe <beautyc...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
So I made a vow, to go through all this stuff on a daily basis...toss out what
is really, really old and then wear a different lipstick everyday and if it
doesn't work, then out it goes. I thought about donating, but too many have
been used and it's just not sanitary at this point.
A true confession from a reformed shopaholic who didn't even know it.
Great post, Lisa, and great idea. I'll do the same.
Priscilla
––
p...@midway.uchicago.edu "Here comes the most beautiful woman in puppetland!"
gwehr...@bellsouth.net (val189)
Rasta Poodle <HELLOherbl...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<a4rpkv8smnmgdpumlp102vilg7burhj...@4ax.com>...
On 27 Aug 2003 17:14:58 GMT, beautyc...@aol.comnospam (Beauty Cafe)
wrote:
<snipped Lisa's true confession/epiphany>
I think it was Val189 who wrote here in the past
about being ashamed if the executors of her estate were to go through
her belongings and find 'piles 'o stuff' stashed away. She made a vow
not to buy anything new, so she could use up her stash. Sounds pretty
stress–free to me, too.
hey – I am surprised and proud that you recall that statement. I have
been on a decluttering kick for the past few years and love being free
of so much stuff.
(Of course, I still have that Germaine Monteil eye shadow duo from
1963 – souvenir of a very happy time in my life)...
I abhor waste and was brought up to be frugal, strongly believing that
the simpler life is a 'better' one. Oh, sure, I went thru the "maybe
this will make me more attractive" stage too, but I think this ends
for most gals around 40. I like to think of it as the End of the
Cosmo Period in a female's life.
glad our op has reached this point in her life.
valerie
"Beghtol family" <begh...@abingdon.net>
Oh, I'm definitely guilty. But not ashamed.
If it's too old, I throw it out. If I'm tired of it, I swap it.
Once in awhile my dh teases me bc our place is so small I have to be
creative with storage but usually he encourages and even adds to my 'stuff'.
I really enjoy makeup and beauty products. They make me feel better and the
years of taking good care of my skin has paid off. I don't look quite as old
as I really am. In fact, alot of women I see who are ten years younger than
me look older.
Yes, my np box is overflowing, I have more lipsticks, glosses, eye shadows,
etc...than I can possibly use. I switch facial care almost as often as
shampoos and body washes.
I love it.
But I try to keep my obsessive/compulsive purchasing urges under control.
For example, I have not yet tried CdLM. (?)
DeB
kayper <kar...@comcast.net>
Beauty Cafe wrote:
Last night we had a pretty rough storm pass through the area...no cable modem,
no cable tv...although we did have electricity...so I did the AF black out
sorta thing....cleaned and organized my makeup.
Tee–hee; I had insomnia last night and experimented with my eyeshadows
and re–organized my facial cleansers and shower gels. I'm sick, I tell,
and I hope there is no cure.
Nickycharles2...@yahoo.com (Vicki in DC)
beautyc...@aol.comnospam (Beauty Cafe) wrote in message news:<20030827131458.28589.00000...@mb–m03.aol.com>...
Last night we had a pretty rough storm pass through the area...no cable modem,
no cable tv...although we did have electricity...so I did the AF black out
sorta thing....cleaned and organized my makeup.
I went through all my draws, cabinets, bags and what not and put my lipsticks,
glosses, balms etc into two small Sephora bags. TWO SMALL SEPHORA BAGS!! Both
filled to the top.
Then I took all my eyeshadows and blushes and tossed them into one shared small
Sephora bag.
Leaving only brushes and my collection of powder foundations in my makeup
drawer...by this time Dave was bored and came in to see what I had found to do
with myself. He looked at me, shook his head and said WTF is all this? Uh years
and years of collecting and being one of Neiman's best customers? Had I been a
dog, my tail would have been between my legs as though I had been caught red
handed.
He laughed at me and said well how come you haven't been buying stuff since
I've been around. I stopped and looked at him and thought about it...and
thought about it...and felt ashamed that I here I sat on the floor with all
these lipsticks, probably hundreds of dollars worth, I won't dare say
thousand's of dollars, and said I guess I just don't need it all anymore? Good
answer he said...you don't need all that stuff, I love you. (and then spoken
like a true man) Besides you only wear the ones in your purse anyway..and with
that he walked out of the bathroom. Leaving me with my junk.
I've still been dwelling on this and I guess that perhaps while I never thought
about it before...perhaps, JUST perhaps...all this was some form of release
from what I thought had been a happy marriage with boxster boy. If I had the
prettier lipstick, if I looked better, etc....etc? I never thought that I was a
shopaholic back then, but staring at all this in my face, I guess I was. I can
say honestly, that the past three years I've not been at all...if anything,
I've become quite the opposite.
So I made a vow, to go through all this stuff on a daily basis...toss out what
is really, really old and then wear a different lipstick everyday and if it
doesn't work, then out it goes. I thought about donating, but too many have
been used and it's just not sanitary at this point.
A true confession from a reformed shopaholic who didn't even know it.
Love, laughter and friendship
Lisa in Dallas
www.beautycafe.com
Lisa:
As long as I'm on AF too you *know* you aren't alone. I've gone
through all the steps of this discovery process probably at the very
same time you have, if not close to. Sometimes you just can't see all
the gaping emotional voids in your life until you finally meet the
person who appreciates you just the way you are, and then it dawns on
you how much was missing in your life before then, and how far you
went to try to fill it.
Love, laughter and friendship right back to you,
Vicki in DC, another who HAS been there and whose wallet is relieved
she's not anymore
"Suzanne" <nosa...@yahoo.com>
You are so not alone...Thanks for the post, Lisa. I've bought hundreds of
dollars of things (little things here and there add up) that I don't NEED
and then looked at the pile (if anything, I'm an organized shopaholic) and
felt guilt. So many times, I'm bored or stressed or down and just want a
pick me up and head to the cosmetics counter. What's new, what's pretty,
what will transform? Find *it*, bring *it* home and there *it* is, another
little $30 pick–me–up nestled in its appointed spot, ready to collect dust.
Seriously, how many lipsticks do I need? I can't relate to my mother who'll
buy one lipstick a year, but do I need 30?
I've got to find other ways to fill the emotional voids.
Suzanne


"Beauty Cafe" <beautyc...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Last night we had a pretty rough storm pass through the area...no cable
modem,
no cable tv...although we did have electricity...so I did the AF black out
sorta thing....cleaned and organized my makeup.
I went through all my draws, cabinets, bags and what not and put my
lipsticks,
glosses, balms etc into two small Sephora bags. TWO SMALL SEPHORA BAGS!!
Both
filled to the top.
Then I took all my eyeshadows and blushes and tossed them into one shared
small
Sephora bag.
Leaving only brushes and my collection of powder foundations in my makeup
drawer...by this time Dave was bored and came in to see what I had found
to do
with myself. He looked at me, shook his head and said WTF is all this? Uh
years
and years of collecting and being one of Neiman's best customers? Had I
been a
dog, my tail would have been between my legs as though I had been caught
red
handed.
He laughed at me and said well how come you haven't been buying stuff
since
I've been around. I stopped and looked at him and thought about it...and
thought about it...and felt ashamed that I here I sat on the floor with
all
these lipsticks, probably hundreds of dollars worth, I won't dare say
thousand's of dollars, and said I guess I just don't need it all anymore?
Good
answer he said...you don't need all that stuff, I love you. (and then
spoken
like a true man) Besides you only wear the ones in your purse anyway..and
with
that he walked out of the bathroom. Leaving me with my junk.
I've still been dwelling on this and I guess that perhaps while I never
thought
about it before...perhaps, JUST perhaps...all this was some form of
release
from what I thought had been a happy marriage with boxster boy. If I had
the
prettier lipstick, if I looked better, etc....etc? I never thought that I
was a
shopaholic back then, but staring at all this in my face, I guess I was. I
can
say honestly, that the past three years I've not been at all...if
anything,
I've become quite the opposite.
So I made a vow, to go through all this stuff on a daily basis...toss out
what
is really, really old and then wear a different lipstick everyday and if
it
doesn't work, then out it goes. I thought about donating, but too many
have
been used and it's just not sanitary at this point.
A true confession from a reformed shopaholic who didn't even know it.
Love, laughter and friendship
Lisa in Dallas
www.beautycafe.com
michele...@aol.combover (Michele317)
I went through all my draws, cabinets, bags and what not and put my lipsticks,
glosses, balms etc into two small Sephora bags. TWO SMALL SEPHORA BAGS!!
Both
filled to the top.
Then I took all my eyeshadows and blushes and tossed them into one shared
small
Sephora bag.
Leaving only brushes and my collection of powder foundations in my makeup
drawer...by this time Dave was bored and came in to see what I had found
to do
with myself. He looked at me, shook his head and said WTF is all this? Uh
years
and years of collecting and being one of Neiman's best customers? Had I
been a
dog, my tail would have been between my legs as though I had been caught
red
handed.
He laughed at me and said well how come you haven't been buying stuff since
I've been around. I stopped and looked at him and thought about it...and
thought about it...and felt ashamed that I here I sat on the floor with
all
these lipsticks, probably hundreds of dollars worth, I won't dare say
thousand's of dollars, and said I guess I just don't need it all anymore?
Good
answer he said...you don't need all that stuff, I love you. (and then spoken
like a true man) Besides you only wear the ones in your purse anyway..and
with
that he walked out of the bathroom. Leaving me with my junk.
I've still been dwelling on this and I guess that perhaps while I never
thought
about it before...perhaps, JUST perhaps...all this was some form of release
from what I thought had been a happy marriage with boxster boy. If I had
the
prettier lipstick, if I looked better, etc....etc? I never thought that
I was a
shopaholic back then, but staring at all this in my face, I guess I was.
I can
say honestly, that the past three years I've not been at all...if anything,
I've become quite the opposite.
So I made a vow, to go through all this stuff on a daily basis...toss out
what
is really, really old and then wear a different lipstick everyday and if
it
doesn't work, then out it goes. I thought about donating, but too many have
been used and it's just not sanitary at this point.
A true confession from a reformed shopaholic who didn't even know it.
good for you! i think lots of us have been there, using makeup purchases to
make up for unhappinesses in relationships, family, weight, job. i know it's
been anathema in here to suggest that the feeling of needing to buy stuff is
sometimes related to unhappiness, or that it suggests a problem in one's life,
but i think it can. i'm glad your man is supportive. keep him! :)
Tracy Cramer <tlcrame...@yahoo.com>
On 03 Sep 2003 20:44:59 GMT, michele...@aol.combover (Michele317) wrote:
i know it's
been anathema in here to suggest that the feeling of needing to buy stuff is
sometimes related to unhappiness, or that it suggests a problem in one's life,
but i think it can.
Unfortunately, this has been my shopping method for a long time and it took
quite a while to realize what I was doing. A rough day could make me *need*
another lipstick, nail polish, whatever, and I'd buy something not so much
because I had a driving desire to use the item, but because I needed that little
lift from having something new to focus on.
Since I recognized this tendancy, I've really been working hard to curb it. If I
find something I feel like buying, I think long and hard about exactly why I
want it. Most of my recent purchases have had, IMO, a good reason, such as the
new Maybelline mascara (because I hate the 2 non–waterproof mascaras I have!).
FWIW, at least I changed my bad mood shopping to clothing and makeup, which is
fairly normal. My "thing" used to be pens –– I had so damn many pens, it wasn't
funny.
Tracy
======================================
We child proofed our home 3 years ago
and they're still getting in!
======================================
njh...@aol.com (Cheryl H.)
Lisa,
First congratulations....you have solved a major problem without
medication!
Reading your post, you revealed what I secretly know about
myself....and even medication does not help. Thank goodness my need
to fill a void is limited to cosmetics and skin care, which I find
rather strange, why not other items, like jewlery, furniture, etc.?
There was a point a few years ago where everything in my life was calm
and happy and I did notice no impluse e–orders, no running to the mall
out of lonliness to fill a feeling with something I know will make me
feel special only to want to return it the next day as I had no need
for it in the first place. I know I have a problem because I hardly
ever (besides face wash and shampoo) use anything up...I replace it
and throw it out or give it away.
But, on the other hand, don't we all need an outlet and this is much
safer and less expensive then drugs, liquor, etc, and not hurting
anyone.