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scarves how do you wear your's ?

"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk>
just wondering how you wear your scarf? That's if you do?
I have found that you are either 'a scarf person' or you are not !
I am......
What makes one person like a scarf and another not ?
what is the best way to wear one?
would it be a square scarf ?
a long oblong ?
worn at the neck?
or on the head?
do you like to wear pure silk?
or is any material fine?
I like large square silk scarves..
usually worn as a headscarf. tied ' Kelly ' style.
but don't mind at the throat or even tied to my bag.
But they have to be pure silk..
Cant tell you why,apart from pure silk feels nicer than say polyester,and
ties and folds better.
while I'm on the subject of scarves.. why are scarves still
worn at all ?
just wondering.
Helen.
"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com>
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"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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just wondering how you wear your scarf? That's if you do?
I have found that you are either 'a scarf person' or you are not !
I am......
What makes one person like a scarf and another not ?
I am one of those that does not care for scarves.
caryper...@aol.comnospam (Caryperk39)


"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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joel <re...@optonline.net>
A scarf is just a great, versatile accessory –– a great way toi add color. They
can be subtle. They can be bold like an Hermes. They can be expensive or just a
few dolars. A scarf can reflect special interests or interesting places.
I think a lot of women don't wear scarves because they're not comfortable with how
to tie them or what really goes with what.
This is an opinion and not meant to hurt anyone's feelings. But, we've had about
10 years or more of minimalist blacks and monotones. The result is a whole
generation of young women who have no clue what colors they can wear. And, they're
scared to death of anything with color. A scarf is an easy way to learn about
color without making a big investment.
Bill Blass once said: Women who go to work wear black. Women with money and taste
wear colors –– because they can afford to...
joel
Caryperk39 wrote:


"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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just wondering how you wear your scarf? That's if you do?
I have found that you are either 'a scarf person' or you are not !
I am......
Scarf people seem to have a flair – you can't just slap it on – you must tie or
drape it beautifully, and have the knowledge to pair the right shape scarf with
the right garment.
For example, I love the look of a white collared shirt with a long narrow scarf
wrapped several times around the neck, double flipped (so it stays where it's
put) and carefully arranged in a loose cravat style. This looks amazing with a
leopard print scarf, black pants and jacket.
Large square scarves (a la Hermes) are gorgeous artfully draped and loosely
tied or tucked over a round neck – and I prefer this look on a collarless top,
such as a cashmere sweater.
If you take a scarf and fold it in a triangle and use a french knot it just
doesn't have the same pizazz.
ymmv,
cary
excjo...@aol.com (EXC JO ANN)
Subject: Re: scarves how do you wear your's ?
From: joel re...@optonline.net
Date: 8/27/03 8:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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A scarf is just a great, versatile accessory –– a great way toi add color.
They
can be subtle. They can be bold like an Hermes. They can be expensive or just
afew dolars. A scarf can reflect special interests or interesting places.
Interesting your timing on this post Joel. Just yesterday, I was going through
scarf drawers looking for some Jaeger scarves I knew I purchased but couldn't
locate. They had fallen behind the drawer – but in the process, I discovered
all those I had forgotten and made a mental note that I must wear these more
often. Nothing like a scarf to add drama to the simplest garment. I have
them all categorized and ready to press and reorganize for Fall.
I also found two scarf tying booklets I have had for years and years.
Jo Ann
www.exclusivelyjoann.com
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"Trilby" <p...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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I wear a lot of 90 x 90 cm (35 x 35 ") silk twill scarves, many of which
are from Hermes.
hi. IIRC, you own the very rare "bookplate" scarf, correct? would you mind
describing it? and where were you able to find one? thank you.
p...@midway.uchicago.edu (Trilby)
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"Trilby" <p...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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hi. IIRC, you own the very rare "bookplate" scarf, correct? would you mind
describing it? and where were you able to find one? thank you.
Sure. BTW, I'm not at home, so this is from memory. It's the "Ex
Libris" scarf, and the pattern is copied from Thierry Hermes's book
plate. The design is black on a white background. There is the usual horse
and carriage Hermes design, plus a cypher of made of the initials T. H.––I
can't remember the other design elements offhand. I got it from eBay, and
I actually did very well because I knew the scarf came in black and white,
but the seller's photograph was murky and the color was off. The
photograph made it look as it it were peach. I took a chance and bid on it
and got a NIB scarf for a great price.
HTH,
Priscilla
––
p...@midway.uchicago.edu "Here comes the most beautiful woman in puppetland!"
Tom <...@panix.com>
Trilby <p...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
Usually I fold opposite corners in towards the middle so that I get a long
trapezoid, usually about six inches wide. I loop that around my neck and
tie the ends in a square knot.
Great to read this, Trilby. I found a beautiful silk square in the men's
department at Lord & Taylor around 40 years ago. Blue & gold baroque
pattern. Couldn't resist it. Then I couldn't figure out how to wear the
thing. A friend came up with a guess, which was exactly what you've
described here. Alas, the square wore out years ago. (It's still around,
however: too tattered to wear, too beautiful to toss.) But it's nice to
know I was wearing it the Right Way (or at least one of the Right Ways) all
those years.
Tom Parsons
––
––
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| probably indicates unskilled labor.
http://www.panix.com/~twp | ––John Ciardi
p...@midway.uchicago.edu (Trilby)
I wear a lot of 90 x 90 cm (35 x 35 ") silk twill scarves, many of which
are from Hermes.
Usually I fold opposite corners in towards the middle so that I get a long
trapezoid, usually about six inches wide. I loop that around my neck and
tie the ends in a square knot.
Sometimes I do the same fold, wrap it around my throat with the flat edge
in front, do a half knot at the back of my throat, and let the ends drape
back down in front, or loop then in another half knot.
Another thing I do is fold the edges in not on the diagonal, but top down
and bottom upwards, until I get a rectangle that is the width of the
scarf. Then I take that, place it behind my neck with the ends in front
and loop it loosely. I don't tie a knot, I just get halfway there and
stop, leaving the scarf around my neck with the ends in front. This is a
nice way to wear a scarf with a border, as the border color at the ends
shows up well.
Sometimes I do the long diagonal fold and wear it inside a suit
jacket, instead of a blouse. I place the folded scarf so that it's
paralell to the jacket opening, and tuck the ends into my bra to hold it
in place.
As for which scarves I like to wear, I tend to pick scarves that include
at least one color that I'm wearing, usually two. I'll wear a pink
cashmere crewneck with gray flannel trousers and team it with a scarf
with pink, gray, and a few other colors.
I like Hermes's more traditional representational designs because I enjoy
knowing the story the scarf tells, even if it's not apparent to the people
who see me wearing it. In fact, it usually isn't apparent, because I
always wear my scarfs folded several times. I can't stand the triangle
fold slung over a shoulder––I think it looks sloppy and I just know that
if I tried it, the scarf would end up in my plate.
HTH,
Priscilla
––
p...@midway.uchicago.edu "Here comes the most beautiful woman in puppetland!"
"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com>
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"joel" <re...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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A scarf is just a great, versatile accessory –– a great way toi add
color. They
can be subtle. They can be bold like an Hermes. They can be expensive or
just a
few dolars. A scarf can reflect special interests or interesting places.
I think a lot of women don't wear scarves because they're not comfortable
with how
to tie them or what really goes with what.
This is an opinion and not meant to hurt anyone's feelings. But, we've had
about
10 years or more of minimalist blacks and monotones. The result is a whole
generation of young women who have no clue what colors they can wear. And,
they're
scared to death of anything with color. A scarf is an easy way to learn
about
color without making a big investment.
Bill Blass once said: Women who go to work wear black. Women with money
and taste
wear colors –– because they can afford to...
Well, I have money and I like to think I have taste, but to me, scarves are
what I identify with what my grandmother wore. How would you convince a
non–scarf wearer to wear what? Baby steps, please.
joel <re...@optonline.net>
Well, I can try but minds can be hard to change.
Most of you know me as a vintage seller –– but I do sell modern. To me the best
vintage is not something that looks like a costume –– or slike omething your
grandmother wore.
Sometimes it's a question of how the scarf is worn. Take a look at the famous
pictures of Audrey Hepburn with the scarf tied around the head. Select the
right colors and the same look can be very contemporary.
In the 1950s, small chiffon tied around the neck and knotted to the side were
popular as were small scarves tied around a pony tail. I think that would look
dorky today. But a big 35" by 35" Hermes or silk twill knotted loosely like a
sailor tie with a vblack jacket is very contemporary and easy to do.
Just don't think costume.
joel
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"joel" <re...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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color. They
just a
with how
about
they're
about
and taste
Well, I have money and I like to think I have taste, but to me, scarves are
what I identify with what my grandmother wore. How would you convince a
non–scarf wearer to wear what? Baby steps, please.
"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com>
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"joel" <re...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Well, I can try but minds can be hard to change.
Most of you know me as a vintage seller –– but I do sell modern. To me the
best
vintage is not something that looks like a costume –– or slike omething
your
grandmother wore.
(ears perk up) You sell things? Show me the way. What is the url to your
selling site?
Sometimes it's a question of how the scarf is worn. Take a look at the
famous
pictures of Audrey Hepburn with the scarf tied around the head. Select the
right colors and the same look can be very contemporary.
In the 1950s, small chiffon tied around the neck and knotted to the side
were
popular as were small scarves tied around a pony tail. I think that would
look
dorky today. But a big 35" by 35" Hermes or silk twill knotted loosely
like a
sailor tie with a vblack jacket is very contemporary and easy to do.
Just don't think costume.
joel
I have to admit I was fascinated recently reading about the way Grace Kelly
wore a scarf on her head. I thought that look would be good rather than a
baseball cap when you want to cover up.
I may just buy a scarf in your honor, Joel.
Kathy
"Claire in SF" <clairi...@aol.com>
Caryperk39 wrote:


"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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just wondering how you wear your scarf? That's if you do?
I have found that you are either 'a scarf person' or you are not !
I am......
caryper...@aol.comnospam (Caryperk39)
Cary, what do you mean by "double flipped"?
Claire in SF
When I learned to tie knots in girl scouts, we said "right over left and
under." do that and then just go under one more time. (with just the right)
This just makes the whole thing more secure and it never droops or comes untied
– but it's not a double knot.
There is another trick like that – it's for tying shoes –
when you make a bow – make the loop, and then go around it twice before pulling
the second loop through – it stays as tight as a double knot, but you untie it
the normal way and it comes right out. it's great for little kids' shoes.
xx
cary
"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVET...@yahoo.com>
http://members.aol.com/modefrance/tying/scarf_tying.html
i hope this helps!
––
read and post daily, it works!
rosie
"Acceptance is not submission; it is acknowledgment of the facts of a
situation, then deciding what you're going to do about it."
........................K.C. Theisen
"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:bigslg$75...@hercules.btinternet.com...
just wondering how you wear your scarf? That's if you do?
I have found that you are either 'a scarf person' or you are not !
I am......
What makes one person like a scarf and another not ?
what is the best way to wear one?
would it be a square scarf ?
a long oblong ?
worn at the neck?
or on the head?
do you like to wear pure silk?
or is any material fine?
I like large square silk scarves..
usually worn as a headscarf. tied ' Kelly ' style.
but don't mind at the throat or even tied to my bag.
But they have to be pure silk..
Cant tell you why,apart from pure silk feels nicer than say polyester,and
ties and folds better.
while I'm on the subject of scarves.. why are scarves still
worn at all ?
just wondering.
Helen.
the Wicked Witch <fashionwi...@yahoo.com>
Generally, I don't wear them. I only wear scarves for warmth, around my
neck/sort of tucked under the collar of a coat. I have a cheapo
polartec–type material one, that I bought right after I cut my hair
short enough to have my neck get cold, and two nice ones that my mom
crocheted for me, out of yarn I selected when we went shopping together.
I don't really like scarves otherwise. Like those dressy, silk scarves,
they just aren't me. I haven't got a clue how to do anything flattering
with them, and anything I *can* think of to do with them doesn't suit me
at all.
I have a couple really pretty chiffon scarves with roses embroidered on
them, that I bought at a GOOB sale in a little local boutique not long
ago. I think I paid about $5 each, had no clue what I was going to use
them for, but they were pretty and cheap, how could I pass on them? I
wound up using them as door decoration for my closet (they're draped
over the top in a manner I like to think of as artful, disguising the
unattractive top of an over–the–door row of clothing hooks). I love them
there, but I can't imagine actually wearing them. I tried one to tie my
hair back once while cleaning (as an alternative to a headband), and I
nearly laughed myself silly when I looked in the mirror. Not a good look
for me!
––
the Wicked Witch
ascots...@aol.comnojunk (John Leslie)
Here is another website with a treasure trove of pictures from magazines on
various scarf–styules...and to those who are thinking of wearing the Grace
Kelly–style headscarf...go go go! That look is TD4.
Ebay is a great souce for scarves, from Vera and Echo to Ralph Lauren and
Hermes.
site link for scarf pix...http://dresscodescarf.de/frameset.htm
John Leslie / Dallas, TX
excjo...@aol.com (EXC JO ANN)
Subject: Re: scarves how do you wear your's ?
From: ascots...@aol.comnojunk (John Leslie)
Date: 8/30/03 10:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message–id: <20030830104300.22707.00000...@mb–m23.aol.com>
Here is another website with a treasure trove of pictures from magazines on
various scarf–styules...and to those who are thinking of wearing the Grace
Kelly–style headscarf...go go go! That look is TD4.
Ebay is a great souce for scarves, from Vera and Echo to Ralph Lauren and
Hermes.
site link for scarf pix...http://dresscodescarf.de/frameset.htm
John Leslie / Dallas, TX
Thanks John – great site. I have bookmarked it for future reference. Just
this week, I inventoried and pressed my vast collection of scarves and as I
pressed, I was trying to create mental looks with the scarves and various
dresses, garments, etc. This site is more helpful than you can imagine.
Thanks so very much! Great timing.
Jo Ann
www.exclusivelyjoann.com
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>


"John Leslie" <ascots...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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Here is another website with a treasure trove of pictures from magazines
on
various scarf–styules...and to those who are thinking of wearing the Grace
Kelly–style headscarf...go go go! That look is TD4.
Ebay is a great souce for scarves, from Vera and Echo to Ralph Lauren and
Hermes.
site link for scarf pix...http://dresscodescarf.de/frameset.htm
John Leslie / Dallas, TX
Thanks, John. I've bookmarked the site as well. Welcome once again to
alt.fashion.
Audrey
"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk>
Just wondering...
During the Eighties I noticed that women when wearing business suits
sometimes wore either a silk scarf at the neck or tucked into the breast
pocket of a business suit.
I have a number of Hermes pochettes and was wondering
would it still be ' ok ' to wear one in the breast pocket of a jacket ?
would it look too masculine as it seems to be a man thing, showing a
handkerchief in a suit pocket..
I notice that Bianca Jagger often wears one .
Would any of you even consider wearing one that way?
Helen.
"
excjo...@aol.com (EXC JO ANN)
I have a number of Hermes pochettes and was wondering
would it still be ' ok ' to wear one in the breast pocket of a jacket ?
would it look too masculine as it seems to be a man thing, showing a
handkerchief in a suit pocket..
I notice that Bianca Jagger often wears one .
Would any of you even consider wearing one that way?
Helen.
"
Absolutely and I still do from time to time primarily with fall/winter suits.
Jo Ann
www.exclusivelyjoann.com
"Jennifer" <Jenni...@yahoo.co.uk>
Yes I sometimes wear a silk scarf tucked into a business suit I find that it
adds a dash of colour. I have found that people only give me positive
comments on wearing either scarves or silk handkerchiefs this way I have
never received a comment such as 'why do you wear one that way '
hope this helps put your mind at ease
Jennifer


"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Just wondering...
During the Eighties I noticed that women when wearing business suits
sometimes wore either a silk scarf at the neck or tucked into the breast
pocket of a business suit.
I have a number of Hermes pochettes and was wondering
would it still be ' ok ' to wear one in the breast pocket of a jacket ?
would it look too masculine as it seems to be a man thing, showing a
handkerchief in a suit pocket..
I notice that Bianca Jagger often wears one .
Would any of you even consider wearing one that way?
Helen.
"
"KM" <kthyn...@aol.com>
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"helen" <lydiasc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Just wondering...
During the Eighties I noticed that women when wearing business suits
sometimes wore either a silk scarf at the neck or tucked into the breast
pocket of a business suit.
I have a number of Hermes pochettes and was wondering
would it still be ' ok ' to wear one in the breast pocket of a jacket ?
would it look too masculine as it seems to be a man thing, showing a
handkerchief in a suit pocket..
I notice that Bianca Jagger often wears one .
Would any of you even consider wearing one that way?
Helen.
"
If Bianca wears it, it is fine.
"Frayed" <fra...@ix.netcom.comical>


"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thanks, John. I've bookmarked the site as well. Welcome once again to
alt.fashion.
Audrey
Welcome back and nice to "see" you again.
––
Karen
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"I think people are getting carried away with balsamics"
Bobby Flay
Rasta Poodle <herbl...@newsguy.comno>
In article <bigslg$75...@hercules.btinternet.com>, helen says...
just wondering how you wear your scarf? That's if you do?
I have found that you are either 'a scarf person' or you are not !
I am......
Hi Helen:
My server just coughed up this thread on scarves, and I see there are a lot of
replies, but I'll just reply to your original request, letting everyone's input
flutter in the wind as they may :–)
What makes one person like a scarf and another not ?
Let me first say I saw an excerpt from the movie "Le Divorce" the other day, and
the older lady/mentor was telling the younger lady that a French woman can use a
scarf and its many permutations as a way to flirt and seduce (fashionably, of
course.) Watching the excerpt, I realized that the looks and uses of the
(always) oblong scarves were similar to how I tied and draped scarves (back in
the day when I used to wear them, giving them up in the Miami heat.)
what is the best way to wear one?
There is no 'best way' –– the scarf should be tied or draped to reflect the
outfit, mood, or activity.
would it be a square scarf ?
Square scarves are more for a business, or lunch setting, IMO. Not to say the
oblongs couldn't be used for that, also, but squares are more formal, less
flirty and less seductive. (using the French woman's analogy :–)
a long oblong ?
Typically, yes.
worn at the neck?
OK, you can drape it around the neck, to fall down the back. You can drape it
around the neck to flutter down the front, either on both sides, or down one
side (usually left, if you're right–handed.) You can just place it around the
neck, untied or draped, to hang down the front. You can wrap it loosely around
the neck several times, edges tucked in. You can wear it just loosely tied in
the front at bust level, with edges hanging. These are just a few of the
variations.
or on the head?
That would, IMO, be for a retro look, or for driving in a convertible, so you
could keep your hair under control.
do you like to wear pure silk?
or is any material fine?
My collection contains silk, fine sateen cotton, rayon (from India, beautiful
stuff). I also have some loose–weave cottons from Brazil.
I like large square silk scarves..
usually worn as a headscarf. tied ' Kelly ' style.
You must live in a colder climate than me, or like a more formal style. The
Kelly style was very big in the 60's (as far back as I remember) with women of
all ages, but in my visits to northern cities, I have only seen this style worn
by (a few ) older women in the past few decades (40s and above.)
but don't mind at the throat or even tied to my bag.
But they have to be pure silk..
Cant tell you why,apart from pure silk feels nicer than say polyester,and
ties and folds better.
I have never seen a polyester scarf (sheltered life, LOL?) Silk it lovely, but
it holds the heat, hence my love of cotton and rayon ones (which drape and flow
and flutter beautifully.)
while I'm on the subject of scarves.. why are scarves still
worn at all ?
To finish an outfit, to add color and drama, to add movement, as a plaything to
twirl and examine while talking (better than a ciggie or other hand prop), and
to flirt and seduce, of course!
Anya {{{*_*}}}
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