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Clueless about shaving

kingchi...@hotmail.com (King Chiron)
I'm a man in my mid–30s and while I've been shaving for more than 15
years I'm a bit clueless about how to get a really good shave. I do
know that you're supposed to wet your face with warm water for a few
minutes prior to shaving. I generally use shaving cream with a Mach 3
razor (love it).
For most of my face this works just fine. But there are sections on
my neck that don't look quite shaved and when I go over those areas
multiple times I end up looking red and splotchy and not good.
I've heard that you should go with or against the grain or something
like that. I understand the issue of grain, but I don't know how to
figure out which way it's running and if I should be shaving against
or with. I assume this is what is meant when people talk about
shaving up or shaving downwards on different parts of the face, but
again, clueless.
Help!
And thanks in advance.
Ruddell <ruddell'Elle–Kabo...@canada.com>
In article <eca45adb.0308201232.56aa4...@posting.google.com>,
kingchi...@hotmail.com says...
I'm a man in my mid–30s and while I've been shaving for more than 15
years I'm a bit clueless about how to get a really good shave. I do
know that you're supposed to wet your face with warm water for a few
minutes prior to shaving. I generally use shaving cream with a Mach 3
razor (love it).
Buy a Remington and you'll never go back to a blade.
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Dennis
http://www.ejacanada.com
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"Rick" <...@privacy.net>
"Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle–Kabo...@canada.com> wrote in message news:MPG.19ada24fe767baeb989...@news.sasktel.net...
In article <eca45adb.0308201232.56aa4...@posting.google.com>,
kingchi...@hotmail.com says...
Buy a Remington and you'll never go back to a blade.
Actually, buy a Norelco and use it together with your blade.
You'll never, ever get as close a shave with an electric, but
they're great for touching up those problem curvy areas like
the neck and chin without causing any bloodflow.
Rick
Charles Perrin <c.l.perrin...@att.net>
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:21:25 –0600, Ruddell wrote:
Buy a Remington and you'll never go back to a blade.
Buy a Remington and it will feel like you're shooting off your face.
YMMV.
Richard Hunter <returntosen...@ddressunknown.com>
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:21:25 –0600, Ruddell wrote:
Ruddell <ruddell'Elle–Kabo...@canada.com>
Charles Perrin wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:21:25 –0600, Ruddell wrote:
Buy a Remington and it will feel like you're shooting off your face.
YMMV.
Wrong Remingtons Charlie, although I do own a few
of those ones also...
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Dennis
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Ruddell <ruddell'Elle–Kabo...@canada.com>
Richard Hunter wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:21:25 –0600, Ruddell wrote:
Buy a Remington and you'll never go back to a blade.
"Remington shaves as close as a blade or your money back."
i tried it several years ago. and yes, i did get my money back.
Well, at least they stood up to their claim. I'm
happy with mine (well, more than happy) but what
was it you didn't like about them.
Just couldn't get a close shave? I tried a Braun
once and it felt like it wasn't really shaving,
more or less ripping of the first layer of skin
and burnt like crazy.
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Dennis
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"Meister Proper" <nos...@NOmy–SdPeAjMa.com>
Get a Braun.
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I shave with Occam's Razor
http://www.dwacon.com
Ruddell <ruddell'Elle–Kabo...@canada.com>
In article <pan.2003.08.21.13.19.19.174...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER>,
paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER says...
I was so impressed I bought a Mach 3. Actually I used a Remington for a
while but wasn't really happy with it, I actually found a Philishave
suited me better. But now I use nothing but a Mach 3 with shaving cream.
I used a Philishave for years but dumped them right after trying a
Remington.
Far as wet shaving goes, I only use a blade when we go to England every
year as I had a recharable battery get toasted even with the converter.
Thing would charge over there but when I returned to Canada, the 110V
circuit no longer had enough to recharge the battery.
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Dennis
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paul s <paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER>
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:53:10 –0600, Ruddell wrote:
In article <pan.2003.08.21.13.19.19.174...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER>,
paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER says...
I used a Philishave for years but dumped them right after trying a
Remington.
<Victor Kiam>
I was so impressed, I bought the company.
</Victor Kiam>
Far as wet shaving goes, I only use a blade when we go to England every
year as I had a recharable battery get toasted even with the converter.
Thing would charge over there but when I returned to Canada, the 110V
circuit no longer had enough to recharge the battery.
A mate of mine learned about the voltage difference the hard way. He
bought a discount new Sony CD player over in New York. He brings it
back to England. Cuts the 2–pin American plug off the mains cord and wired
on a British plug instead. Plugs it in, turns it on....BANG!!!!! 'No sir
it's not under guarantee'
He won't make the same mistake again.
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Paul S
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Charles Perrin <c.l.perrin...@att.net>
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:17:26 –0600, Ruddell wrote:
I had all the adaptors and voltage converter but it still damaged the
recharable battery. Shaver worked fine but only as a plug–in...
So, you charred the "recharable" battery? :–(
Charles Perrin <c.l.perrin...@att.net>
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 06:55:37 GMT, CW wrote:
Someone finally mentioned the best way.
Strait razor.
I didn't know George Strait came out with a line of razors.
"d.c." <nos...@NOmy–SdPeAjMa.com>
If you belong to a gym:
(1) Sit in the steam room for a while
(2) Shower
(3) Shave while in shower (if mirror) or right after
Works for me...
––
I shave with Occam's Razor
http://www.dwacon.com
paul s <paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER>
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:32:20 –0700, King Chiron wrote:
I'm a man in my mid–30s and while I've been shaving for more than 15
years I'm a bit clueless about how to get a really good shave. I do
know that you're supposed to wet your face with warm water for a few
minutes prior to shaving. I generally use shaving cream with a Mach 3
razor (love it).
For most of my face this works just fine. But there are sections on my
neck that don't look quite shaved and when I go over those areas
multiple times I end up looking red and splotchy and not good.
You may not be soaking for long enough, and as result your having to
scrape too hard, causing the shaving–rash. Also not every–one is suited to
wet–shaving, perhaps you could try an electric–razor.
I've heard that you should go with or against the grain or something
like that. I understand the issue of grain, but I don't know how to
figure out which way it's running and if I should be shaving against or
with. I assume this is what is meant when people talk about shaving up
or shaving downwards on different parts of the face, but again,
clueless.
Help!
Do what I do. Always shave just after you've had a good shower or bath. In
this way your beard has had a good long soak in warm water, and will be
really softened up ready for the shave.
I know this is a Gillette web page. But it do have some very useful
wet–shaving tips:
http://www.mach3turbo.com/perfect_shave/
I do use a Mach 3 myself and never have a rash problem.
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Paul S
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"Rick" <...@privacy.net>
"paul s" <paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER> wrote in message > A mate of mine learned about the voltage difference the hard
way. He
bought a discount new Sony CD player over in New York. He brings it
back to England. Cuts the 2–pin American plug off the mains cord and wired
on a British plug instead. Plugs it in, turns it on....BANG!!!!! 'No sir
it's not under guarantee'
He won't make the same mistake again.
Boy now *there's* Darwin hard at work.. What a moron.
Rick
paul s <paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER>
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:11:17 –0700, Rick wrote:
"paul s" <paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER> wrote in message >
A mate of mine learned about the voltage difference the hard way. He
bought a discount new Sony CD player over in New York. He brings it
back to England. Cuts the 2–pin American plug off the mains cord and
wired on a British plug instead. Plugs it in, turns it on....BANG!!!!!
'No sir it's not under guarantee'
He won't make the same mistake again.
Boy now *there's* Darwin hard at work.. What a moron.
Yup this mate is not the sharpest tool in the shed. What's more he asked
'Paul can you repair it for me?'. so I said 'Well I can empty some of the
soot out for you'. :–P
It's not the first time I've seen this happen, and it won't be the last.
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Paul S
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"Rick" <...@privacy.net>


"paul s" <paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER> wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:31:15 +0000, paul s wrote:
PS.
His trip to New York is another story.
Wanna know more?
Sure. I'm all ears.
Charles Perrin <c.l.perrin...@att.net>
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:07:02 +0100, paul s wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:53:10 –0600, Ruddell wrote:
In article <pan.2003.08.21.13.19.19.174...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER>,
paulsli...@REMOVESPAMhotmail.comKILLER says...
I was so impressed I bought a Mach 3. Actually I used a Remington for a
while but wasn't really happy with it, I actually found a Philishave
suited me better. But now I use nothing but a Mach 3 with shaving cream.
I used a Philishave for years but dumped them right after trying a
Remington.
<Victor Kiam>
I was so impressed, I bought the company.
</Victor Kiam>
Victor Kiam was so impressed he sold the company. Rayovac was so
impressed they bought the company.
I'm always mystified as to why battery companies like shaving:
Gilette and Duracell
Energizer and Schick*
Rayovac and Remington
* – IMHO, Schick needs to hire a Webmaster: Pfizer sold them in March
but the Schick Web site still points to Pfizer!
Charles Perrin <c.l.perrin...@att.net>
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:07:02 +0100, paul s wrote:
A mate of mine learned about the voltage difference the hard way. He
bought a discount new Sony CD player over in New York. He brings it
back to England. Cuts the 2–pin American plug off the mains cord and
wired on a British plug instead. Plugs it in, turns it on....BANG!!!!! 'No sir
it's not under guarantee'
I have at least one item in the house designed for almost any power
(the nameplate is 100–240V, 50–60 Hz AC).
It does have a hardwired 2–pin American plug, however.
Ruddell <ruddell'Elle–Kabo...@canada.com>
In article <76pdkvongfm1had7mj95oml5a9r0jhl...@4ax.com>,
c.l.perrin...@att.net says...
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:07:02 +0100, paul s wrote:
I have at least one item in the house designed for almost any power
(the nameplate is 100–240V, 50–60 Hz AC).
It does have a hardwired 2–pin American plug, however.
I had all the adaptors and voltage converter but it still damaged the
recharable battery. Shaver worked fine but only as a plug–in...
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Dennis
http://www.ejacanada.com
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"Rick" <...@privacy.net>
"Greg Tucker–Kellogg" <g...@nospam.tucker–kellogg.com> wrote in message news:biboin$op...@bob.news.rcn.net...
Since nobody else has actually addressed your question:
0. Shave right after you shower
....or before. some guys prefer to shower cleanshaven.
1. Wash your face well with a facial cleanser
any 'ol soap is fine. the more basic the better.
2. Use a facial scrub (Nivea makes one you can get at the drugstore). You
don't need to do this every shave, but every other shave is a good place to
start. YMMV.
pointless, unless you have blackhead problems.
3. if you have a really thick or coarse beard hair (black men take note) use
a pre–shave oil
unnecessary.
4. Use a decent shave lotion or cream. Work it in, don't pat it on in big
foamy blotches. Neutrogena makes a good cream you can get at the drugstore;
Keils makes some great creams you can get at better department or specialty
stores. You may need a cream for sensitive skin.
barbasol or rise. $1 a can.
5. your moustache grain is probably pointing down. How that feels should
give you an idea for how to feel for the rest. Most of it is probably
pointing down.
the beard in certain neck and underchin areas often grows
sideways, toward the back. not down. take a finger, feel
those areas. the direction of the grain will be evident.
6. Shave with the grain, at a steady pace. Don't rush it. Rince the razor
early and often.
wrong. always shave against the grain unless you have acne
problems.
7. Shave those problem areas LAST. That gives the cream more time to
soften your skin.
wrong again. use an electric shaver for problem areas.
8. rinse your face afterwards
hey you got one right.
9. Apply an astringent or toner (Neutrogena and Kiehls are good choices),
then a non–greasy moisturizer (Cetaphil makes one that is great). DON'T
forget this step.
completely unnecessary, and if your job involves any kind of
physical labor you'll look like an oil slick by lunchtime.
After a few days, your shaved appearance should improve. As you take better
care of your skin, it;ll get easier. If you have shaving related acne,
apply a little on–the–spot acne medication after the astringent.
with all the crap you put on your face, greg, it's no wonder you
have acne problems. how long does all this take you every
morning?
rick
"Shawn K. Quinn" <skqu...@xevious.kicks–ass.net>
paul s wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:21:25 –0600, Ruddell wrote:
I was so impressed I bought a Mach 3. Actually I used a Remington for a
while but wasn't really happy with it, I actually found a Philishave
suited me better. But now I use nothing but a Mach 3 with shaving cream.
Yeah, I also swear by Mach3. For a while, I used Sensor (another good
product of Gillette) and did not really feel compelled to make the switch
until I got three Mach3 sample razors in the mail (one at my place, two at
my mom's). Now I swear by them and wouldn't switch back for anything.
Oddly enough, I've noticed recently Gillette introduced a three–blade
version of the Sensor cartridges. It's easy to see the demand for them, as
Mach3 is a bit pricey in comparison (Mach3 comes in 4, 8 and 12 packs
versus Sensor 5, 10, and 15 packs, and a 4–pack of Mach3 carts is easily $1
or so higher than a 5–pack of Sensor). I still swear by Mach3 (I'm now even
using the Mach3 Turbo cartridges, which is –– I think –– the most expensive
product Gillette makes).
––
Shawn K. Quinn
"CW" <clinton.mag...@comcast.net>
Someone finally mentioned the best way. Strait razor. Forget the shave cream
in the cans. A good shaving soap beats any of them. Yu can mix it to the
consistency you want and, using the brush, work it into the beard well.


"Blazin' Tommy D." <td...@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
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My shaving secrets:
I take a really hot shower with Dr Bronner's 16 in 1 peppermint soap and
use
Gillette blue disposables (the white strip), hold the skin taught and
shave
against the direction of the hair It's the way barbers do it with a hot
towel and straight razor
whopk...@csd.uwm.edu (Alfred Einstead)
"CW" <clinton.mag...@comcast.net> wrote:
Someone finally mentioned the best way. Strait razor. Forget the shave cream
in the cans. A good shaving soap beats any of them. Yu can mix it to the
consistency you want and, using the brush, work it into the beard well.
Straight shaving in hot bathroom after shower.
I'll use both an electric razor (sometimes 2 of them), and 1, 2 or
more reuseable razors.
There was once a study linking men's romantic ability or sexual function
with their preferences for razor vs. electric.
Keep your wives and girlfriends hidden. ARRORRORAROWL!
nob...@nowhere.gov (eyejoy)
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 11:53:35 GMT, "Blazin' Tommy D."
<td...@stny.rr.com> wrote:
My shaving secrets:
I take a really hot shower with Dr Bronner's 16 in 1 peppermint soap and use
Gillette blue disposables (the white strip), hold the skin taught and shave
against the direction of the hair It's the way barbers do it with a hot
towel and straight razor
use moisturizer cream or lotion afterwards.
A little secret I learned, years ago from a GQ article: rinse your
blade very frequently in very COLD water. Thats the blade, not your
face.
I have a notion that this may help 2 ways. One soothing the face, the
other making the blade stiffer.
Alternatively, the electric wet–shave razors are quite nice, and I use
that most of the time now, except if I skip a day.
"Blazin' Tommy D." <td...@stny.rr.com>
My shaving secrets:
I take a really hot shower with Dr Bronner's 16 in 1 peppermint soap and use
Gillette blue disposables (the white strip), hold the skin taught and shave
against the direction of the hair It's the way barbers do it with a hot
towel and straight razor
use moisturizer cream or lotion afterwards.


"Shawn K. Quinn" <skqu...@xevious.kicks–ass.net> wrote in message
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paul s wrote:
Yeah, I also swear by Mach3. For a while, I used Sensor (another good
product of Gillette) and did not really feel compelled to make the switch
until I got three Mach3 sample razors in the mail (one at my place, two at
my mom's). Now I swear by them and wouldn't switch back for anything.
Oddly enough, I've noticed recently Gillette introduced a three–blade
version of the Sensor cartridges. It's easy to see the demand for them, as
Mach3 is a bit pricey in comparison (Mach3 comes in 4, 8 and 12 packs
versus Sensor 5, 10, and 15 packs, and a 4–pack of Mach3 carts is easily
$1
or so higher than a 5–pack of Sensor). I still swear by Mach3 (I'm now
even
using the Mach3 Turbo cartridges, which is –– I think –– the most
expensive
product Gillette makes).
––
Shawn K. Quinn