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Re: Sunscreen was Beauty Confessions

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"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>
I forgot to mention too that it does your children no good if you don't take
care of yourself.
Audrey
"K" <Kthyn...@aol.com>


"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This is Audrey in mother mode:
For those of you who admit to not wearing sunscreen all I can say is you
will change
your mind when you have your first mole that is skin cancer. It may not
happen this
month or this year but when you least suspect it, it will happen. The
odds
are not
getting better either.
Mine occurred several years ago when a clear blemish showed up at the side
of
my nose. Cancerous moles are not always brown, disfigured or ugly. It
would
not go away and when I finally went to a dermatologist, I learned it was
basal cell
carcenoma. What me? I had it removed by an excellent surgeon but it was
a
huge wakeup call for me. This has happened to far too many people I know
and
these spots show up in the strangest places.
You can go without moisturizers, forget to wash your face and be carefree
about a
lot of beauty treatments, but don't be careless about your health. You
don't
want cancer.
Audrey
If I were to be in the sun, such as swimming or gardening, I would put it
on.
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>
It does not have to be bright and sunny for a person to be exposed to the
sun's rays.
The sun's rays can penetrate through a cloud cover. Gamble and take your
chances
Audrey
kayper <kar...@comcast.net>
ahmward wrote:
I forgot to mention too that it does your children no good if you don't take
care of yourself.
Audrey
Would it help if I said I *did* wear UVA sunscreen on my arms
and shoulders in addition to the Neutrogena Tinted I wear on
my face? My shoulders and upper back are where I have evident
sundamage *and* a lot of moles. Actually, I'm nearly always
wearing a t–shirt with short sleeves, anyway, and then apply
UVA/B stuff on what's left. I learned *that* just because I
don't like sunburn! If I could, I would post a picture of
what I do to the child when I take her to the beach or the
pool. I put more clothes *on* her than I take off, and
last year her swim coach nick–named her "Queen Amidala."
She kayper
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>


"kayper" <kar...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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ahmward wrote:
Would it help if I said I *did* wear UVA sunscreen on my arms
and shoulders in addition to the Neutrogena Tinted I wear on
my face? My shoulders and upper back are where I have evident
sundamage *and* a lot of moles. Actually, I'm nearly always
wearing a t–shirt with short sleeves, anyway, and then apply
UVA/B stuff on what's left. I learned *that* just because I
don't like sunburn! If I could, I would post a picture of
what I do to the child when I take her to the beach or the
pool. I put more clothes *on* her than I take off, and
last year her swim coach nick–named her "Queen Amidala."
She kayper
My next door neighbors are in their early 70s. They have had basal cells
and
melanoma in small spots on their arms and legs. They haven't lived in CA
all
their life, were not avid sun tanners and didn't do any of the usual things
to
deserve getting cancer. Wear the highest SPF that works for you everywhere.
it's when people (not you) say I don't wear it because I don't like it, all
I can
say is cancer is worse.
Audrey
"J Rogow" <JRo...@SpammenotNewsguy.com>
X–No–archive: yes
ahmward wrote:
This is Audrey in mother mode:
For those of you who admit to not wearing sunscreen all I can say is
you will change
your mind when you have your first mole that is skin cancer. It may
not happen this
month or this year but when you least suspect it, it will happen.
The odds are not
getting better either.
Mine occurred several years ago when a clear blemish showed up at the
side of
my nose. Cancerous moles are not always brown, disfigured or ugly.
It would not go away and when I finally went to a dermatologist, I
learned it was basal cell
carcenoma. What me? I had it removed by an excellent surgeon but it
was a huge wakeup call for me. This has happened to far too many
people I know and
these spots show up in the strangest places.
You can go without moisturizers, forget to wash your face and be
carefree about a
lot of beauty treatments, but don't be careless about your health.
You don't
want cancer.
Audrey
I had one of those "nasties" excised from the side of my nose last year,
the dermy is keeping an eye on the spot and has removed several more
he thinks look suspicious. It isn't my favourite thing to have done. :>(
Anyhow – seconding Audrey's comments – USE SUNSCREEN!
"J Rogow" <JRo...@SpammenotNewsguy.com>
X–No–archive: yes
kayper wrote:
ahmward wrote:
Would it help if I said I *did* wear UVA sunscreen on my arms
and shoulders in addition to the Neutrogena Tinted I wear on
my face? My shoulders and upper back are where I have evident
sundamage *and* a lot of moles. Actually, I'm nearly always
wearing a t–shirt with short sleeves, anyway, and then apply
UVA/B stuff on what's left. I learned *that* just because I
don't like sunburn! If I could, I would post a picture of
what I do to the child when I take her to the beach or the
pool. I put more clothes *on* her than I take off, and
last year her swim coach nick–named her "Queen Amidala."
She kayper
Look at the cover ups at Solumbra. www.solumbra.com
or get the Ritt sun–protection stuff.
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>


"J Rogow" <JRo...@SpammenotNewsguy.com> wrote in message
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X–No–archive: yes
Look at the cover ups at Solumbra. www.solumbra.com
or get the Ritt sun–protection stuff.
Have you or anyone else reading this tried the Ritt stuff? I got a sample
in the Allure beauty box and think I'll
use it this week on my walking shirts.
Audrey
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>
http://www.alexandme.com/html/rit_sun_guard.html
Facts about Rit Sun Guard
Audrey
whoopingcran...@yahoo.com (melizabeth)
This thread has made me realize what a fool I have been for skipping
the sunscreen. I have fallen under the "well I'm not tanning anymore,
so do I need to use it?" spell. Yes, I do need to use it. Will start
again.
"petunia" <spr...@comcast.net>
At my dermatologist check–up last week, she reiterated to me that foundation
with sunscreen doesn't provide enough protection for anything more than
running out to your car, since you don't apply enough makeup to give the
coverage. So when spending any amount of time outside, she said to use
sunscreen under the SPF foundation to really provide protection.
petunia
"Stevie" <privil...@charter1.net>


"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This is Audrey in mother mode:
For those of you who admit to not wearing sunscreen all I can say is you
will change
your mind when you have your first mole that is skin cancer. It may not
happen this
month or this year but when you least suspect it, it will happen. The
odds
are not
getting better either.
Mine occurred several years ago when a clear blemish showed up at the side
of
my nose. Cancerous moles are not always brown, disfigured or ugly. It
would
not go away and when I finally went to a dermatologist, I learned it was
basal cell
carcenoma. What me? I had it removed by an excellent surgeon but it was
a
huge wakeup call for me. This has happened to far too many people I know
and
these spots show up in the strangest places.
You can go without moisturizers, forget to wash your face and be carefree
about a
lot of beauty treatments, but don't be careless about your health. You
don't
want cancer.
Audrey
hey Audrey
thank you for posting this. I have/was a sun worshipper for a LONG time.
When I was dating , I had a chocolate brown bathing suit that I would always
get *darker* than the suit....... until my docs started saying to watch it.
So after reading stuff and knowing others who had skin ca.... I started
skipping the sun was intermittent in sunblock. I develope rosacea and used
sunblock quite a bit and sometimes it irritated the rosacea a lot. After
having a bit of pre–ca spots show up on my face (and I mean more than a few)
my doc did a procedure (and you can see the aftermath on my forehead) and I
am now pre ca spot free. BUT I now use a physical sunblock in my makeup
regimen as the FIRST layer on my face... then dust repeatedly during the day
with loose mineral powder
Please realize that there are now products to be used on face and body that
can protect you and to be wise enough to wear it. From the multitudinous
docs I have interviewed from derms to plastic surgeons, they all said it's
not the occasional day in the sun..... but the 10–20 mins you are exposed
to on a daily basis even during snow, overcast and other non sunny days.
it's critical to be vigilant. There are so many micronized zinc/Ti02
products out there that allow you to have sunblock and not look like the
ghost!
Stevie
kayper <kar...@comcast.net>
ahmward wrote:
It does not have to be bright and sunny for a person to be exposed to the
sun's rays.
The sun's rays can penetrate through a cloud cover. Gamble and take your
chances
And faster than you think. You can get burned faster on an
overcast day than in a sunny one. It's a battle I'm trying to
explain to the child these days: if the sun is up, it can still
"see" you and burn you even if *you* can't see *it.* It's the rule
of the house: you go out protected. The End. kayper
kayper <kar...@comcast.net>
Look at the cover ups at Solumbra. www.solumbra.com
or get the Ritt sun–protection stuff.
Oh, those are terrific! I have 6 or 8 caps, but would just
just a bandana if I thought to protect the back of my neck (since
I always wear my hair up if it's really hot.) Thx for posting
this! There are some really cool–looking ones, too. kayper
gwehr...@bellsouth.net (val189)
Grannie Valerie wil chime in here again too – and tell the story of
the large centipede of a scar on upper arm – melanoma, baby.
I won't go out for more than a minute without a hat now. Keep hats in
cars, on the boat ––
also spf 50 ocean potion goes on face every morning, whether I plan to
leave the house or not. Just to etablish the habit, I do it.
val
jshe...@aol.comxoxo (Heather and Joe)
I *do* wear sunscreen, it's just not something I think of each time I go out.
(maybe it's just become habit, but I'm not obsessively thinking about it?)
While at the beach last month, we had a huge cabana. I spent most of the time
under it and slathered on an SPF 30 and still got a tan.
Our children wear sunscreen (Bullfrog SPF 45) religiously and again, still tan.
So it's not for lack of effort here. I do prefer to self tan, though.
Heather
http://www.faceonline.com
http://members3.boardhost.com/hhenggeler/ (FOL messageboard since stupid server
is acting up)
S./NYC <guiltyTAKETHISOUTpleas...@hotpop.com>
x–no–archive: yes
Look at the cover ups at Solumbra. www.solumbra.com
or get the Ritt sun–protection stuff.
Have you or anyone else reading this tried the Ritt stuff? I got a
sample in the Allure beauty box and think I'll
use it this week on my walking shirts.
It doesn't make much sense.
Think about how you wear clothes. If you're getting so much sun through
your clothes, you should be darker and more sun–damaged over those parts
of the body where you wear only one layer–– most of the torso and most
of the legs. You should be lighter and less damaged where you'd have
several layers, say where your underwear and waistbands would fall. IOW
you should have something that looks like a bikini tan just from
running around in your clothes all these years. And you should be dead
pale only on the crescents under your breasts where your underwire wires
fall.
–S./NYC
trixiebe...@yahoo.com (trixiebee)
gwehr...@bellsouth.net (val189) wrote in message news:<e624bdd3.0307201706.6aa87...@posting.google.com>...
Grannie Valerie wil chime in here again too – and tell the story of
the large centipede of a scar on upper arm – melanoma, baby.
I won't go out for more than a minute without a hat now. Keep hats in
cars, on the boat ––
also spf 50 ocean potion goes on face every morning, whether I plan to
leave the house or not. Just to etablish the habit, I do it.
val
I just lurk here, but this is a subject that hits close to home. After
Christmas 2001 my brother–in–law announced to the family that he had
melanoma – already at stage 3 and inoperable. He immediately started
rounds of chemo and radiation, but after some months was getting no
improvement and had advanced to stage 4. His brain was about the only
organ not involved. Luckily he had heard of a treament where they
harvest a part of your tumor and turn it into a vaccine. He didn't
qualify for any clinical trials in the US since he had had about every
other treament available. He mortgaged his house and travelled to
Australia where it is a standard therapy. It is now 8 months since
his treatment and his tumors have shrunk over time and are continuing
to do so. If it had not been for this therapy, he would most likely no
longer be with us.
WEAR SUNSCREEN EVERYDAY!!! (Yep, that's me shouting) and get your
moles checked yearly by your doctor or derm.
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>


"trixiebee" <trixiebe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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gwehr...@bellsouth.net (val189) wrote in message
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Grannie Valerie wil chime in here again too – and tell the story of
the large centipede of a scar on upper arm – melanoma, baby.
I won't go out for more than a minute without a hat now. Keep hats in
cars, on the boat ––
also spf 50 ocean potion goes on face every morning, whether I plan to
leave the house or not. Just to etablish the habit, I do it.
val
I just lurk here, but this is a subject that hits close to home. After
Christmas 2001 my brother–in–law announced to the family that he had
melanoma – already at stage 3 and inoperable. He immediately started
rounds of chemo and radiation, but after some months was getting no
improvement and had advanced to stage 4. His brain was about the only
organ not involved. Luckily he had heard of a treament where they
harvest a part of your tumor and turn it into a vaccine. He didn't
qualify for any clinical trials in the US since he had had about every
other treament available. He mortgaged his house and travelled to
Australia where it is a standard therapy. It is now 8 months since
his treatment and his tumors have shrunk over time and are continuing
to do so. If it had not been for this therapy, he would most likely no
longer be with us.
WEAR SUNSCREEN EVERYDAY!!! (Yep, that's me shouting) and get your
moles checked yearly by your doctor or derm.
Welcome trixiebee and thanks for shouting. Lots of shouts may make a
difference.
Audrey
Rasta Poodle <inhibitionSherbl...@newsguy.com>
On 21 Jul 2003 10:22:18 –0700, trixiebe...@yahoo.com (trixiebee)
wrote:
I just lurk here, but this is a subject that hits close to home. After
Christmas 2001 my brother–in–law announced to the family that he had
melanoma – already at stage 3 and inoperable. He immediately started
rounds of chemo and radiation, but after some months was getting no
improvement and had advanced to stage 4. His brain was about the only
organ not involved. Luckily he had heard of a treament where they
harvest a part of your tumor and turn it into a vaccine. He didn't
qualify for any clinical trials in the US since he had had about every
other treament available. He mortgaged his house and travelled to
Australia where it is a standard therapy. It is now 8 months since
his treatment and his tumors have shrunk over time and are continuing
to do so. If it had not been for this therapy, he would most likely no
longer be with us.
WEAR SUNSCREEN EVERYDAY!!! (Yep, that's me shouting) and get your
moles checked yearly by your doctor or derm.
Hi Trixiebee
I'm so glad your BIL got the treatment, and I hope for his continued
success. It's just horrible he had to mortage his home and travel to
Australia! What a terrible burden on a sick person. I believe there is
now a preventative vaccine (not curative, like he got) here in the
States for melanoma.
I would scream over a megaphone about sunscreen if I thought it would
do any good, but many Afers seem to shy away from it ????? Why, oh,
why? Because they don't like the 'feel'???? They'll like the feel of a
scalpel or chemo even less. Here in FL, we're urged to get a full body
scan from the derm three times a year if we're in the 'risky'
category. It's a real, real danger, and the ozone layer gets a bigger
hole every year (what the're blaming the rising incidence of skin
cancer in black folks on.)
––
© Anya {{{*_*}}}
Visit my "Aromatherapy Debunked and Defended" site
http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady
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michele...@aol.combover (Michele317)
For those of you who admit to not wearing sunscreen all I can say is you
will change
your mind when you have your first mole that is skin cancer.
true; thankfully i've been spared so far, but i've several friends who've had
it. not all sun–worshippers either. as my derm says, if you've been in the sun,
you have sun damage, even if your skin looks fine on the surface.
Nickycharles2...@yahoo.com (Vicki in DC)
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<NfCcnY8g8ZPaPoeiU–K...@comcast.com>...
This is Audrey in mother mode:
For those of you who admit to not wearing sunscreen all I can say is you
will change
your mind when you have your first mole that is skin cancer. It may not
happen this
month or this year but when you least suspect it, it will happen. The odds
are not
getting better either.
Mine occurred several years ago when a clear blemish showed up at the side
of
my nose. Cancerous moles are not always brown, disfigured or ugly. It would
not go away and when I finally went to a dermatologist, I learned it was
basal cell
carcenoma. What me? I had it removed by an excellent surgeon but it was a
huge wakeup call for me. This has happened to far too many people I know
and
these spots show up in the strangest places.
You can go without moisturizers, forget to wash your face and be carefree
about a
lot of beauty treatments, but don't be careless about your health. You
don't
want cancer.
Audrey
Thanks Mom :–). As someone who at age 27 had a mole change
appearance, feared it was melanoma, had it removed and got lucky, I
heartily second this advice.
Vicki in DC, in sister mode
"ahmward" <nospam.ahmw...@yahoo.com>


"melizabeth" <whoopingcran...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This thread has made me realize what a fool I have been for skipping
the sunscreen. I have fallen under the "well I'm not tanning anymore,
so do I need to use it?" spell. Yes, I do need to use it. Will start
again.
Yay! Someone has listened to those of us who screamed, "sunscreen."
This is about your health not beauty.
Audrey